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Re: The demonization of smoking...... [Re: upstateNY] #7004011
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Originally Posted by upstateNY
I was gonna quit smoking,,but I figured it would be bad for my health,,cause smoking makes me cough,,and that's the only exercise I get. wink

Lol, that's just as smart as the "well, you have to die of something. " argument.

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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
Originally Posted by upstateNY
I was gonna quit smoking,,but I figured it would be bad for my health,,cause smoking makes me cough,,and that's the only exercise I get. wink

Lol, that's just as smart as the "well, you have to die of something. " argument.

Just joking of course.Smoking is a terrible addiction and a tough one to beat.One thing I cant stand is when some jerk wad dumps their ash tray in a parking lot.


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Re: The demonization of smoking...... [Re: cowboy2005] #7004032
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After smoking a pipe, then cigars and finally cigarettes for decades, I quit about 20 years ago. I still love the smell of smoke from any of those.


Eh...wot?

Re: The demonization of smoking...... [Re: cowboy2005] #7004042
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Mullein leaf is the best trap pan cover-fuzzy side up it holds the covering well and stands up well to freeze thaw conditions under the trap too.

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Re: The demonization of smoking...... [Re: Boco] #7004046
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Originally Posted by Boco
Mullein leaf is the best trap pan cover-fuzzy side up it holds the covering well and stands up well to freeze thaw conditions under the trap too.


You spelled Mullin wrong, there Robert laugh

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Re: The demonization of smoking...... [Re: Boco] #7004054
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Originally Posted by Boco
Mullein leaf is the best trap pan cover-fuzzy side up it holds the covering well and stands up well to freeze thaw conditions under the trap too.

Hmm I another great use for it! Also just to clear this up in case some people get the wrong idea, I'm not condoning smoking of any kind, all I was saying is that its interesting how engraved smoking is in our history and how we went from everyone (practically) smoking to alot less, step in the right direction for sure. But would still say that if a person had to smoke, mullein would be a better option because there'd be alot less chemicals in the smoke and its non addictive. NOT saying that smoking mullein is a good idea because as stated before its still smoke.





Re: The demonization of smoking...... [Re: Boco] #7004055
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I smoked for 22 years and am I glad I was able to quit. It was not easy but I when I finally got there I never picked up again. That was 30 years ago in December. I do however feel that smoking was real easy to demonize as it is offensive to many and easy to spot and yes many smokers are lax in their concern and clean up regarding their habit. The fact that it is easy to demonize also made it a bigger deal and created more support. I don't know anyone who on a nicotine fit drove their car into an oncoming vehicle or grabbed a weapon and hurt or killed someone in a nicotine rage but alcohol sure has been the cause for many such actions and our society still embraces alcohol as the way to relax and enjoy life. Some can and some can't.

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Re: The demonization of smoking...... [Re: walleyed] #7004059
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Originally Posted by walleyed
Originally Posted by Boco
Mullein leaf is the best trap pan cover-fuzzy side up it holds the covering well and stands up well to freeze thaw conditions under the trap too.


You spelled Mullin wrong, there Robert laugh

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verbascum thapsis. Commonly called the flannel leaf plant.

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Re: The demonization of smoking...... [Re: cowboy2005] #7004062
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I’m old enough to remember folks smoking while flying on jetliners. Some of the older airliners still have ashtrays. Most vehicles sold today don’t have ash trays or cigarette lighters. My 2012 Chevy 2500 still has both.

Re: The demonization of smoking...... [Re: cowboy2005] #7004064
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I remember when cars didnt have seatbelts.


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Re: The demonization of smoking...... [Re: cowboy2005] #7004067
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I used to smoke. No joke.. Quitting was one of the hardest things I've done. My father can smoke for a year and quit cold turkey no problem and pick back up a year later. That guy ain't got that addict gene but still gave it to me.


Anywho..... One thing I noticed is how it divides people unknowingly. Most smokers I know only hang with other smokers and vice versa.

When I quit smoking I didn't know what to do on breaks. 15 minutes is a long time not doing anything.

Now when I smell cigarettes it repulse me. I had 2 guys come over a few weeks back. I was napping in the shed with the door open. They walked straight to the back door. Didn't even pass the shop. The smell of smoke on them was so bad it woke me out of my nap.

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Re: The demonization of smoking...... [Re: cowboy2005] #7004104
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I was hunting bear in Maine a few years back, watching baits from ladder stands. There was a fella from Cleveland in camp, nice guy, big time smoker. Now, smoking while hunting a stand was a no no, and this guy complied. But after showering, and wearing freshly laundered clothes, he still reeked of menthol. It must have stayed with him, much like big time garlic eaters always smell like garlic.

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My dads t-shirts would turn yellow fast. My mom said it was coming out his skin. May have been, cause he always had a shirt over his t-shirt.

Re: The demonization of smoking...... [Re: Bigbrownie] #7004169
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Originally Posted by Bigbrownie
I was hunting bear in Maine a few years back, watching baits from ladder stands. There was a fella from Cleveland in camp, nice guy, big time smoker. Now, smoking while hunting a stand was a no no, and this guy complied. But after showering, and wearing freshly laundered clothes, he still reeked of menthol. It must have stayed with him, much like big time garlic eaters always smell like garlic.

well did he get one?

Re: The demonization of smoking...... [Re: cowboy2005] #7004235
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I know I can hike circles around guys half my age who smoke. It must be embarrassing for them to not be able to keep up with an old guy.

We here about smoking back in the old days not seeming to have the same negative effects. I think a lot my be due to changes in diet (much worse now), less exercise, etc.


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I know that when i smoked (about 30 years ago) every winter I would get a cold/ flu and it would go straight to my lungs. I would hack and cough like i was dying (at times felt like it) since I have quit I almost never get sick and if I do get sick it is gone in a few days (no persistant hacking) . Best move I ever made. But smoking dope is o.k. ? Smoke is smoke.

Re: The demonization of smoking...... [Re: ~ADC~] #7004323
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
Watch your parents, only brother, 2 sisters, and several of your favorite aunts and uncles die too young of complications all related to smoking and second hand smoke and you'll be a little more jaded too. I hate smoking and will not be around it. Inconsiderate smokers are the worst. Puffing away not caring who they are stinking up or making sick with their vile smoke then tossing the butts where ever they fall as if the world is their ashtray. Smoking in cars and confined spaces with kids is even worse, anyone doing so should be ashamed of this abusive behavior.


Guess some families may be predisposed to complications of smoking? My great grandmother lived until 94. Her oldest son is now 89 or so, and her second kid, my grandmother, 82. All life long smokers. All of my grandmother's kids heavy smokers, all still alive. My dad was a 4 pack a day smoker until he quit a few years ago....he's healthier than I am now. Smoking is NOT good for you, but you'll not keel over 5 years after you take your first drag either.

All that said, I wish I'd never started.


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Re: The demonization of smoking...... [Re: H2ORat] #7004330
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Originally Posted by H2ORat
I know that when i smoked (about 30 years ago) every winter I would get a cold/ flu and it would go straight to my lungs. I would hack and cough like i was dying (at times felt like it) since I have quit I almost never get sick and if I do get sick it is gone in a few days (no persistant hacking) . Best move I ever made. But smoking dope is o.k. ? Smoke is smoke.


The only time I've been in bed sick since I was a child is when I got Swine flu. 5 days on the couch, 3 I couldn't get off it but to crawl. Thanks Biden. 3 pack a day smoker since the age of 12.


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Re: The demonization of smoking...... [Re: marathonman] #7004332
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Yea he did. He hunted the five nights, missed one on Friday night. The outfitter let him hunt one more day on Saturday....he killed one that evening.
Originally Posted by marathonman
Originally Posted by Bigbrownie
I was hunting bear in Maine a few years back, watching baits from ladder stands. There was a fella from Cleveland in camp, nice guy, big time smoker. Now, smoking while hunting a stand was a no no, and this guy complied. But after showering, and wearing freshly laundered clothes, he still reeked of menthol. It must have stayed with him, much like big time garlic eaters always smell like garlic.

well did he get one?

Re: The demonization of smoking...... [Re: yotetrapper30] #7004338
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Originally Posted by H2ORat
I know that when i smoked (about 30 years ago) every winter I would get a cold/ flu and it would go straight to my lungs. I would hack and cough like i was dying (at times felt like it) since I have quit I almost never get sick and if I do get sick it is gone in a few days (no persistant hacking) . Best move I ever made. But smoking dope is o.k. ? Smoke is smoke.


The only time I've been in bed sick since I was a child is when I got Swine flu. 5 days on the couch, 3 I couldn't get off it but to crawl. Thanks Biden. 3 pack a day smoker since the age of 12.

Interesting, what brand do you smoke?





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