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Re: The demonization of smoking...... [Re: cowboy2005] #7004343
09/29/20 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by cowboy2005
Originally Posted by yotetrapper30


The only time I've been in bed sick since I was a child is when I got Swine flu. 5 days on the couch, 3 I couldn't get off it but to crawl. Thanks Biden. 3 pack a day smoker since the age of 12.

Interesting, what brand do you smoke?


Marlboro for the first several years, then an Iroquois Indian produced brand called "rollies" for the next 20. Now some burdock and ditch weed mix called This.


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Re: The demonization of smoking...... [Re: cowboy2005] #7004345
09/29/20 11:52 PM
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ever roll your own angela? i think the tobaccos cleaner than marbs and the other brands.

Re: The demonization of smoking...... [Re: yotetrapper30] #7004349
09/29/20 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by cowboy2005
Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
The only time I've been in bed sick since I was a child is when I got Swine flu. 5 days on the couch, 3 I couldn't get off it but to crawl. Thanks Biden. 3 pack a day smoker since the age of 12.

Interesting, what brand do you smoke?


Wow, you're a real inspiration for the kids.

Re: The demonization of smoking...... [Re: cowboy2005] #7004352
09/30/20 12:07 AM
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And for the record smokeless is no better for a human than smoking! I've done both and luckily I've quit both.


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Re: The demonization of smoking...... [Re: cowboy2005] #7004365
09/30/20 01:14 AM
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Do you smokers feel a little fearful about covid? The first thing the Dr. said to me when he found I had covid was, "well, you have never smoked, you haven't picked up vaping lately have you?" I said "no", he said, "you have nothing at all to worry about then".
With all the other bad stuff that comes with smoking, why purposely put yourself at a disadvantage?


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Re: The demonization of smoking...... [Re: Turtledale] #7004370
09/30/20 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Turtledale
...do find it hard to believe that smoking a different herb will help lung function whatsoever, it's still smoke.

Obviously you have never smoked any other herbs.
Mullein opens the breathing passages like nothing else.
Can feel it helping. Haven't noticed any bad effects after decades of use.
Surprised it isn't being used for China virus.


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"We are fast approaching... rule by brute force."
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Re: The demonization of smoking...... [Re: yotetrapper30] #7004371
09/30/20 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Now some burdock and ditch weed mix called This.

Care to elaborate? Scientific names of the herbs you're using? Cure method? Anything else?

So far I've smoked the bark and leaves of Red Osier dogwood. Leaves and flowers of Red and White clover. Leaves of Staghorn sumac, mullein, and a few others.


"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
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Re: The demonization of smoking...... [Re: cowboy2005] #7004373
09/30/20 03:56 AM
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Helloooo! , we're trying to discourage kids from smoking here.

Re: The demonization of smoking...... [Re: cowboy2005] #7004374
09/30/20 04:17 AM
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I don't smoke anymore,but is smoking sitting a worse example for kids than say being obese does ?

Re: The demonization of smoking...... [Re: DuxDawg] #7004381
09/30/20 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by DuxDawg
Originally Posted by Turtledale
...do find it hard to believe that smoking a different herb will help lung function whatsoever, it's still smoke.

Obviously you have never smoked any other herbs.
Mullein opens the breathing passages like nothing else.
Can feel it helping. Haven't noticed any bad effects after decades of use.
Surprised it isn't being used for China virus.

Quit smoking 15 years ago and yes I did try other herbs. Everything from Mullein to marijuana and none of them "opened my breathing passages" they all felt like I was inhaling smoke because I was. If it makes you feel better all the power to ya. Some people take sugar pills and feel better. For me I'll stay smoke free


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Re: The demonization of smoking...... [Re: cowboy2005] #7004386
09/30/20 05:14 AM
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I really miss tobacco. If I get diagnosed with a terminal disease instead of just tipping over someplace I am going to take up chewing again.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: The demonization of smoking...... [Re: waggler] #7004395
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Originally Posted by waggler
Do you smokers feel a little fearful about covid? The first thing the Dr. said to me when he found I had covid was, "well, you have never smoked, you haven't picked up vaping lately have you?" I said "no", he said, "you have nothing at all to worry about then".
With all the other bad stuff that comes with smoking, why purposely put yourself at a disadvantage?


I've been thinking its pretty funny to watch people take off their masks to smoke.

Re: The demonization of smoking...... [Re: cowboy2005] #7004397
09/30/20 06:10 AM
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Those vaping devices are also known as a phag flute.

Last edited by Gary Benson; 09/30/20 06:11 AM.

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Re: The demonization of smoking...... [Re: Pirogue] #7004415
09/30/20 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Pirogue
I don't smoke anymore,but is smoking sitting a worse example for kids than say being obese does ?


The below is an excerpt from the conclusion of a 2009 article in the New England Journal of Medicine

"If past obesity trends continue unchecked, the negative effects on the health of the U.S. population will increasingly outweigh the positive effects gained from declining smoking rates. Failure to address continued increases in obesity could result in an erosion of the pattern of steady gains in health observed since early in the 20th century."

Smoking is bad (lost a grandmother to lung cancer) and I'm glad its on the decline. Maybe in 20 years processed sugars and little debbie snack cakes will be equally maligned. "big sugar" will be the enemy and the government will legislate it and tax it into submission.

Re: The demonization of smoking...... [Re: danny clifton] #7004432
09/30/20 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
I really miss tobacco. If I get diagnosed with a terminal disease instead of just tipping over someplace I am going to take up chewing again.


How long has it been Danny? Most long term clean quitters are repulsed by it.

Re: The demonization of smoking...... [Re: cowboy2005] #7004455
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I get a kick out of people who think I should smell their smoke, but then they're offended when I fart beside them.


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Re: The demonization of smoking...... [Re: Gary Benson] #7004457
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
I get a kick out of people who think I should smell their smoke, but then they're offended when I fart beside them.


Mind if I smoke? Mind if I fart?

Re: The demonization of smoking...... [Re: Oreamnos] #7004471
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Originally Posted by Oreamnos

Originally Posted by Pirogue
I don't smoke anymore,but is smoking sitting a worse example for kids than say being obese does ?


The below is an excerpt from the conclusion of a 2009 article in the New England Journal of Medicine

"If past obesity trends continue unchecked, the negative effects on the health of the U.S. population will increasingly outweigh the positive effects gained from declining smoking rates. Failure to address continued increases in obesity could result in an erosion of the pattern of steady gains in health observed since early in the 20th century."

Smoking is bad (lost a grandmother to lung cancer) and I'm glad its on the decline. Maybe in 20 years processed sugars and little debbie snack cakes will be equally maligned. "big sugar" will be the enemy and the government will legislate it and tax it into submission.

Good call.


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Re: The demonization of smoking...... [Re: cowboy2005] #7004521
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Smoking is indeed bad, as is chew. However, sugar is an awful beast, that and cheap, easy, plastic wrapped garbage food. Go observe an average group of 100 twelve year olds and pay attention to how many of them could not hike a mile due to diet. Diet is worse than tobacco in 2020 in my opinion.

Re: The demonization of smoking...... [Re: cowboy2005] #7004542
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I have had lung issues my entire life. Was severely asthmatic as a baby, and still am. I never smoked cigarettes. Parents were two pack a day smokers, all my siblings did. Of the 4 of us kids, I am the only one still alive. My one sister died at 52 of liver cancer, the other two from smoking. My oldest sister made it to 66, my brother 40. My brother smoked so much that his fingers were stained yellow. This following story is how much attitudes about smoking have changed......I had to do those danged allergy shots weekly for years as a kid. One time when at the MD's office getting the shot I was having a bad day from asthma. My mother commented to the doctor , who was puffing a cigarette, that I complained about cigarette smoke bothering me.....that doctor literally took a drag and blew the smoke in my face and said it was all in my head! Can you imagine some Sawbones doing that in this day and age and the thing being recorded? The lawyers would be richer and the kid on every talk show in the country. What did I get? I got my allergy shot and was sent on my way, only to ride home with my mother who was puffing away. All I have for advice to anyone about smoking.....don't start, quit if you already do, and if you haven't quit, DON'T do it with your kids in the car.


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