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Re: Tax returns
[Re: Starcraft_Dart]
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09/29/20 02:22 PM
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He is under audit for his 2010 $72 million tax return. Hope he doesn't get locked up after he gets voted out this fall. Why are the new liberal trolls always from NY? I think it's the same one or two guys coming back under new names after getting booted.
Eh...wot?
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Re: Tax returns
[Re: Starcraft_Dart]
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09/29/20 02:28 PM
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white17
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He is under audit for his 2010 $72 million tax return. Hope he doesn't get locked up after he gets voted out this fall. Yep. Under audit for the last ten years at least. What does that tell you ? It says they can't find anything illegal. Why would he get locked up ? Even the NYT isn't alleging any illegal behavior.
Mean As Nails
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Re: Tax returns
[Re: yotetrapper30]
#7003944
09/29/20 02:31 PM
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The craziest thing is that there are people who hunt or trap that would vote for a Democrat. I just can't wrap my mind around that even after decades of trying. Copy that.
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Re: Tax returns
[Re: ol' dad]
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09/29/20 03:04 PM
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Am I crazy to think that there are members on here who believe Donald J. Trump prepares his own tax returns? LOL
ol'dad They think he didn’t pay taxes period. lol
-Goofy-
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Re: Tax returns
[Re: Lugnut]
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09/29/20 03:10 PM
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He is under audit for his 2010 $72 million tax return. Hope he doesn't get locked up after he gets voted out this fall. Why are the new liberal trolls always from NY? I think it's the same one or two guys coming back under new names after getting booted. That sure explains a lot.
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Re: Tax returns
[Re: Lugnut]
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09/29/20 06:50 PM
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He is under audit for his 2010 $72 million tax return. Hope he doesn't get locked up after he gets voted out this fall. Why are the new liberal trolls always from NY? I think it's the same one or two guys coming back under new names after getting booted. Why do they get booted? James doesn't.
Who is John Galt?
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Re: Tax returns
[Re: Dirty D]
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09/30/20 08:05 AM
09/30/20 08:05 AM
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James
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I can't respond to all the posts here, so I'll reply to some of the arguments.
1. I hate the Democrats too much to care what Trump does. The libs hate him, so that's enough for me.
I can't help you, man. You hate too much. It must really eat up your soul, to hate that much, that you'd toss all logic, impartial judgment, and morality out the window in favor of your single emotion.
2. If he's a tax cheat how come the IRS hasn't put him in jail?
So who called him a tax cheat? That article doesn't accuse him of being a tax cheat. It's news that the president has only paid $750 in taxes! In what deluded Trumpian universe does that look good for him? Boy, look how smart he is, to play the system that well, you say. Good luck with that argument among undecideds.
3. It's not a moral issue because the money all belonged to him anyway. Taxes are immoral!
Wrong. Unless you renounce all rights to use our public transportation system, our retirement system, our national defense, and numerous other things paid for by our taxes. Or is it that we should only spend money on the stuff you like?
4. If Trump was legal, that's good enough for me.
So what about morality and civic responsibility? The way I was raised, those things count too. And here my biggest issue is, why has he refused to release his returns? And second, which is only partly Trump's fault, why hasn't our tax system been fixed so that a guy who can afford a limo and private jet pays more than $750 in taxes?
Why did Trump fight so ferociously to keep his tax returns secret--despite promises to the contrary--if he isn't ashamed or embarrassed about what's in them?
Trump can clear up this controversy any time he wants to, just by releasing his returns--like every other presidential candidate in modern history. Why won't he?
Even blind worshippers should ask themselves why, now and then.
Jim #1, Jim I seem to remember you stating that you'd vote for any Democrat with a pulse over Trump. Am I wrong? If not seems your hatred is so that your doing what your complaining about. #2, Jim you did, you called him a Tax Cheat. You previous post "Like Boco points out, the guy is either a tax cheat or a real bad businessman. You do realize that some of the "expenses" that come out of profits for years prior to 2017 were for whisking around in his limo and private jet? I bet the company paid for his suits too. Jim" #3 Morality, you think taxes are moral? Taking the fruits of ones labor at the point of a gun and giving it to someone else is moral? Not all taxes are spent on public infrastructure. How about the morality of only some paying for this infrastructure and others not paying for it at all yet benefiting from it, is that moral? Morality has gone out of the window when it comes to taxes years ago. #4 Until proven otherwise Trump has paid what he is legally required to pay. He has done his moral and civic responsibility. Trump doesn't have to release them, in his position I don't see why anyone would. Under audit with thousands of pages of info why give that ammunition to a media that has outright lied about him none stop for 4 years. Don't like the tax system JIM, Don't vote for the guys who made it, Like Joe Biden, in the business of making tax law for 50 years. Your supposedly a Lawyer James. If you had a client in Trumps position would you advise he release his taxes to the press? A press that is undeniably full of the hatred that you talk about in your point #1? The press will never admit that Trump is not guilty of anything. They ignore the fact and go on to the next lie. Russia Russia, Impeach Impeach, Ukraine Ukraine and on and on. All baked up out of lies. Wow, that's a good response, Dirty D. You score several points there. Let's see if I can do half as well. 1. You got me here, Bud. No point in denying it; I hate Trump. The man gets too much free rent in my head. More than he's worth, for sure. So yeah, I need to follow my own advice here. Still, the advice is good, and I'm not the only one who should pay it heed. 2. Saying either A or B is true is not saying both are true, or that either particular one is true. So I did not call him a tax cheat. I'm more inclined to think he's just a bad businessman. After all, ten years of no taxes, plus five years of $750...let's face it, that's not exactly a business genius at work. 3. Yeah, I think taxes are moral. So did Jesus: 'Give unto Caesar that which is Caesar's...." 4. If Trump had released his tax records in 2016, no one would remember them now. the controversy would have long since died. He made a big mistake trying to hide them, and can only blame himself if it all hits the fan right before the election. To me the most important question remains unanswered. How many of these vast loans he's accumulated were made from Russian banks? What other business dealings does he have going with the Russians? Is there anything in those returns that might explain why Trump is so subservient to Putin? Jim
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"And that troll bs is something triggered snowflakes say when they dont like what someone posts." - Boco
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Re: Tax returns
[Re: yotetrapper30]
#7004474
09/30/20 08:12 AM
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James
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And btw, I was never a campaign advisor, and wouldn't work for the likes of Trump if I was. But if you insist on extracting an opinion from me that I'm not qualified to form, I would have advised Trump to release his returns in 2016. Assuming there was no evidence of criminality contained in these records.
Jim
Forum Infidel since 2001
"And that troll bs is something triggered snowflakes say when they dont like what someone posts." - Boco
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Re: Tax returns
[Re: yotetrapper30]
#7004477
09/30/20 08:19 AM
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James, I don't consider myself a Christian so take this with a grain of salt. The quote "give unto Caeser" wasn't Jesus moralizing taxes.
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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Re: Tax returns
[Re: James]
#7004559
09/30/20 09:39 AM
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an opinion from me I'm not qualified to form,
Jim True dat !!
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Re: Tax returns
[Re: yotetrapper30]
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09/30/20 10:40 AM
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I have no doubt Trump has paid millions in taxes those years. But maybe not income taxes? He's surely paid millions if you take into account taxes like sales taxes, property taxes, gas taxes, etc. As for the income taxes I think what you'll find out is that the government owed him due to business losses claimed in previous years and rather than taking it as a refund, he applied it to the next years' taxes, something millions of business men do every year.
~~Proud Ultra MAGA~~
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Re: Tax returns
[Re: yotetrapper30]
#7004617
09/30/20 10:55 AM
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james bay frontierOnt.
Boco
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Dont know if its fake news or not but it was circulated in the media that he was issued refunds of approx 75 million each of 2 years.
Thats a "yuge" loss as far as business goes.Must have been a lot of employees lost their jobs.I'm thinking it must have been when the Atlantic City casino fiasco occurred.
Last edited by Boco; 09/30/20 10:56 AM.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Tax returns
[Re: yotetrapper30]
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09/30/20 11:29 AM
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Boco
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I think so if the disclosure showed compromat(if he is in their pocket) by Russia or other foreign countries.
Last edited by Boco; 09/30/20 11:31 AM.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Tax returns
[Re: Boco]
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09/30/20 11:36 AM
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I think so if the disclosure showed compromat(if he is in their pocket) by Russia or other foreign countries. LOL,,you don't think Muellers TWO YEARS of investigation would have found something like that.HAhahaa,,,your worse than the Libs,,,,RUSSIA<<<<<RUSSIA<<<<RUSSIA
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