Anyone ever run these in factory. ? Seems like if something went wrong there could be awful bad accident or amputation or fatility, anyhow go on 3 yrs. In press operation, usally never mistake an cant recall none long time. A new part today, round big cover with ebossss underneath an kind like like truck hub, but not. So a new die. Had turn part drop down quarter inch or so , fully seat lower die. In my operation, punch out holes. I found after while that part did lock on lower die. An even if not drop on lower die fully seat in position, I parnoud out an check crate of pribly 5 crates parts did in couple hours. An holes look like line up ok, if part was not drop into lower die, fully seated , I would think u would hear a part crushing noise from top die come down,? something got give. Heard bfore. I thinking that every die is this way, never hesrd nothing unusual, I have seen parts get crush before. That not seat right other dies. I hope not screw any parts up, if so, an was like bunch, of that, if not fire. I think quit, but never heard any part crushing noise, there punch press, punch holes in part, I have seen others make huge screwups innovation an not cool, probly not around nomore. Just thinking about stuff like this parnoid me out, thought about it after work a hr. But I think ok. Last week I look at big part underneath an went home, worry that absent kindly set part in press die upside down but didn't, u definately hear if did as really screw uo die. Unfortunately this work, not lit Pay, hi overhead. Cost likely factory, expensive metsl, hi electric bill, very costly operation, actually not kind work I should ever got into, very strict, hard work

Sounds like your not too confident of your abilities on the job-watch out-that is a bad recipe for getting hurt-the other one is overconfidence and resulting complacency which can be just as ,if not more disastrous.
When working around dangerous machinery-follow all safety procedures and keep on the ball,dont get distracted from the task at hand and stay alert.

My buddy owns a metal stamping Co. And some of their presses have tethers that you hook up to your wrists. So when the machine Is operating It pulls your hands away from the press.

I suggest you get a job you are qualified for.

We had a lot of people get hurt from them over the years. I had to run a machine right after a guy lost the end of his finger. Keep your mind on your work and no daydreaming.

Garryowen

That sounds annoying.

I worked with an old guy that could only count to 8 on his fingers.

I asked him how that happened he said he lost the first one in a punch press. Asked how he lost the 2nd one. Said when he went back to work everyone asked him how it happened. He stuck his hand in the machine to show them and it cycled.... Lost another one..... Needless to say he went back to farming for a while.

Better then losing a finger or a hand.

Most of them have light barriers now.

Then that would be a better set up.

I pretty sure with a that force an even springs in top die, if part was not seated on lower die , an stick up 1/4 inch, I would heard something unusual with 1500 ton force hit part an dies have come together so far, no more no less, even springs on top the top die, do I think I must had part fully seated in lower die or would heard some kind noise if part was not seated correctly, an heard nothing, newer part I never see

Shouldn't you be asking your foreman all this. instead of the guys on tman.

Don't you have to preform QC (quality control) checks every so often to verify the parts are formed correctly?

Yes I do, they want u work fast, strict, they have quality inspecter, he never check none mine. Usally before start morning, I never make big mistake. Just notice after while. That some parts seem be lock on die an not lower in one. So I got parnoud an check crate parts to first piece to see if holes in same place, look ok,about 1 out 8 parts. I didn't turn to side to see if lower an lock down as felt in place, I thinking must been, as if not an stick up a 1/4 inch hi on lower die, when hit part top die an come together. At minuim, even springs top die, ur go hear something g wrong as die come close together with metal in between,if part not in right. I think u hear something.probly ok now think about it an not hear thing about it, I dont know what keep ram your something fail an if away that could go down if something fail with arm in it, if did, it gone

Guess you'll find out tomorrow. I ran a press for a few years long ago. They had safety light curtains and wouldn't cycle unless everyone on the press pressed all the buttons connected to it at the same time. I remember when I was kid, putting the parts in wrong and double stacking them just to see what they'd look like. No one told me it could hurt the dies. lol Guess it never did since I never heard about it.

dave i used to run a press and some of the dies will kill a guy not watching what he is doing!!!!

had some 3/8's mild steel parts and if the part didn't clear and you hit the next one everyone on that end of the plant heart it. and felt it

Back in the nineties, I knew a man named Fred, who rented a house on a property I trapped on, who had 20 some feet of steel pipe shoved through his head, when cinder blocks that were used to replace a damaged leg on one machine crumbled and caused the machine that was feeding the pipe to miss the hole. He will always be legally blind and in intense pain, if he is still alive.

Keith

These guys stamp the ends for propane tanks and pressure vessels.
https://compco.com Quite a story, how he started.

Good Lord

I enjoy reading Dave's threads. At least the one's I can make sense out of.

all ours have "pullbacks"

PLUS, all our operators have a measurement or 2 they take, OR, a sample pc to hold up to compare during production to make sure they make good parts.

YOU could ask for a good part, to use to compare against what you make.

I built stamping dies before I started building injection molds. When I finished one I had to setup the press and sample the die. In my opinion you will wreck stuff putting parts in wrong, or need a toolmaker to help get stuck parts out of die. Good luck to you Dave, a good steady factory job may help you get thru the low fur price years. When I started as a toolmaker the word was computers and CNC machines would make life easier for the people in the trade, all it did was shorten lead times, don't miss the trade at all after 3 years retired.

Every press should have a palm station that both hand had to be on it before machine will cycle. And if more than one person they all had there own station. I ran a 450 ton press when I worked at Bobcat. There were 4 people running it, two in front and two in back. Parts went in the front and came out the back. It was the fastest cycling machine in the shop. It was scary to run the 1st few times.

Wish you'd worry about your spelling/ sentence structure as much as you do other things Coonman.

Relax Francis !
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When you get to typing 250 words a minute; come back and see us.

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Making a living is more important than spelling.

Smoke another hippie

I have a 1 ton punch press use it for making 3/16" bear snares.

Then a 5 Ton punch press to make 1/4" and 5/16" bear snares. they both will take your finger off.

Dont want to do that again. Lost 1 finger in 1970 to a table saw while in teck school.

Never heard nothing back, must got right. If hear nothing by tomma, I ok. I pretty sure would at least hesrd noises if part not seated right an to high in lower die. Usally never make mistakes. Probly not, definately not much pay however, work other job an close. An get bresk afternoon, very busy after work run around bs junk in town becsuse no heath ins, an had take bank statements pay stubs to some bldg n lady not there, an had go across town, an shopping, an hurry. Crap gets me ,get ready work agsin , an now sounds like nothing off on medical appt

Ya dangerous

Ya they have saftey lite curtains. Killer machine without one.not long time but work with ppl while in press hands an there look around up in air , tromp down on only set palm buttons in press. 2 operaters with only palm buttons for 1 operater, dbl stack parts accidentally, or screwups csn destroy die or break it, get u sent home for day, or fire, leave piece of trim in press, forget it or dbl stack part an stuck die , superviser investigate what happen an why, not fun, I seen temp with pony tail down waist dbl stack big commercial Lennox air cond basez, did once, got part out, he did it again, an a third time. Superviser not happy, I don't know what happen but not see nomore

35 yrs in a big stamping facility.
Handstands with light curtains
Or handstands with a Brake monitor and pinch point calculations for handstands.
Coil fed presses and Robotics lines were gate curtain / light curtain / and or pressure pads.
I've tested and signed Ok for production releases on literally thousands of set-ups in my career.
Misgauged parts always end with die damage of some type.
Broken punches and buttons , chipped cutters, cracked die sections.
My biggest fear everyday when putting people to work was amputation or worse.
So thankful it never happened .
Be safe and keep your eyes open.

Never broken any dies, I rember dbl stack part once as first was stuck in top die an not see. It, this was around year ago

The guy Goodyear store was white. This was 5 years ago for sure that long ago at least, dtown store. I rember yrs back as expensive, other Goodyear store uptown, exellent, no problems there, at factory. Last year, the temp was black dude, 2 different ppl idk

I have decided I had enough bs at this job over wkend thinking about it, I have work lot since younger but at a job for go on 3 years with never a raise. No bonus, vac, benifits. Nothing. An alwsys big responsibility. On increasing difficult do expensive parts, only reason stay was close home an work other job, but it get be to that in trouble go restroom between bresk or if back rest on crate in-between parts that lean against, it while wait for partner, in trouble.i need some money but enough Is enougb, everyone else got small raise recently, i never hesrd nothing, next time I hear some bunk, I gonna have tell them where go, hate mangement, I email hr next door at warehouse, pay same but no gurantee hrs, to bad not lay off on unemployment. In fall, or in 2 years if around. Work pt an soacil security. An trapping hobby

I assume your old enough for what I call regular SS? I wouldn’t want anyone to collect SS disability AND work pt. Further waste of my tax dollars.

I not able get disability if working. How could u possibly Work much an get it, I believe to get it, earn less $11-$1200.month an maybe, if I try , probly. But long wait. No I not old enough for regular soacil security but not far, in year half about. Plan on it if still around. If I was that age. I be done that place in less minute gone.

You can tell trapping season is getting closer.

Seat the part. Put both of your hands behind your back and press the peddle.
Do that every time and you'll be OK.
If you are worried about your parts call your supervisor over and ask.
Just

So now I find out there hire black guys sedonna at 65 more cents hr. Than me, an i am be used as trainer, this stuff is pathetic. No raise like everyone else. I reslly go Complain, I don't think I tolerate it am keep work there very much longer, they get big tax cut on minorities, the hr in front me other day, at stop sign,kept stop, like 4 times. Knew I in hurry, want me hit bumper,collect ins Money

Don't put your tongue on any cold metal.

So see if raise on next week check after 3 years slave work, I see the African American lovers have already hire bunch them from temp place. Different temp co. Then I at, so if they are get more than me. Plus do all work alot more others like today, I think black guy complain cause boss him around get job done right, as he not capable do it, mgr talk him, nothing me, I have decided that no matter how close home or convient, if no raise, end Oct or 1st week Nov it, do some trapping an start end dec across street at place I talk hr awhile ago at. I work there 3 yrs, ago, holiday season help, that way factory's placez are, some much worse, if I didn't have another job possibly drive bigger town close an start out at $16 hr,

You still working there? We all told ya to look for a better job a year or two ago.

If carry out what possibly plan, not a better job get into but a for sure hire, an not as hard. Well leave me plenty time off, there definately some crappy factories around, ones far worse. Some smaller ones. Not all can be be pretty cruddy plavez. Actually got along better in bigger town in inner city at factory a few yrs ago except for black guy work with for months an quit before trapping, to far away thru rush hr traffic, didn't pay well, not real hard work, but thing I hated, was thus place had union, which fine. But most placez radios or music not allow, here it was, he had this huge radio an kind loud music listen to, not take it, didn't have wear earplugs in area yet I did , he tell me take out, I couldn't stand music an not his or belong to him is what place wanted. Like in prison, u got someone for protection, they had me like for him, I quit few days before trspping started. An got job later in month at place I talk of, I email her usally every year around now, the hr. To see if hire me back, an say yes if I want to i can

Do you all think coonman would complain as much if he had a CDL and did day trucking for some company in his area...? Asking for a friend...

Reckon he drives as well as he writes ?

Yes.
Coonman, I don't think anyone would blame you for leaving the job you're at, just get another one first. It's great that you are actively trapping however you know that's not going to pay out and you'll most likely lose money from what the markets look like from posters with far more knowledge than me. I do wish you the best.

Ya decent pt nite job hinders me from possibly good fill time job. Not want loose it to much. The other pt job, maybe quit an come back if want. After 2-3 weeks. I heard other low jobs that let u do that. Not go miss out mych pay in 3 wks. As low fur prices are, make same thing as there still, 2 pt jobs an this year with more hrs plus trapping, I just to tired out do much trapping , along that.

Run stamping press every day for work. See many different parts. Have seen a lot of part placement mishaps also. Need to be very aware around that type of equipment things can happen bad very fast.

Definately true. Rarely make mistake if ever. About a year ago. Plus responsibility an what they expect with get part done an die switch for next part. Plus all paperwork, count, quality. For next nothing on pay , I figgure my time most time there is worth $20 hr in area. What pay is insult