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Metal press work #7004889
09/30/20 05:32 PM
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Anyone ever run these in factory. ? Seems like if something went wrong there could be awful bad accident or amputation or fatility, anyhow go on 3 yrs. In press operation, usally never mistake an cant recall none long time. A new part today, round big cover with ebossss underneath an kind like like truck hub, but not. So a new die. Had turn part drop down quarter inch or so , fully seat lower die. In my operation, punch out holes. I found after while that part did lock on lower die. An even if not drop on lower die fully seat in position, I parnoud out an check crate of pribly 5 crates parts did in couple hours. An holes look like line up ok, if part was not drop into lower die, fully seated , I would think u would hear a part crushing noise from top die come down,? something got give. Heard bfore. I thinking that every die is this way, never hesrd nothing unusual, I have seen parts get crush before. That not seat right other dies. I hope not screw any parts up, if so, an was like bunch, of that, if not fire. I think quit, but never heard any part crushing noise, there punch press, punch holes in part, I have seen others make huge screwups innovation an not cool, probly not around nomore. Just thinking about stuff like this parnoid me out, thought about it after work a hr. But I think ok. Last week I look at big part underneath an went home, worry that absent kindly set part in press die upside down but didn't, u definately hear if did as really screw uo die. Unfortunately this work, not lit Pay, hi overhead. Cost likely factory, expensive metsl, hi electric bill, very costly operation, actually not kind work I should ever got into, very strict, hard work

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Sounds like your not too confident of your abilities on the job-watch out-that is a bad recipe for getting hurt-the other one is overconfidence and resulting complacency which can be just as ,if not more disastrous.
When working around dangerous machinery-follow all safety procedures and keep on the ball,dont get distracted from the task at hand and stay alert.


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My buddy owns a metal stamping Co. And some of their presses have tethers that you hook up to your wrists. So when the machine Is operating It pulls your hands away from the press.


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I suggest you get a job you are qualified for.


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We had a lot of people get hurt from them over the years. I had to run a machine right after a guy lost the end of his finger. Keep your mind on your work and no daydreaming.

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Originally Posted by The Beav
My buddy owns a metal stamping Co. And some of their presses have tethers that you hook up to your wrists. So when the machine Is operating It pulls your hands away from the press.

That sounds annoying.

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I worked with an old guy that could only count to 8 on his fingers.

I asked him how that happened he said he lost the first one in a punch press. Asked how he lost the 2nd one. Said when he went back to work everyone asked him how it happened. He stuck his hand in the machine to show them and it cycled.... Lost another one..... Needless to say he went back to farming for a while.

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Better then losing a finger or a hand.


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Originally Posted by The Beav
Better then losing a finger or a hand.

Most of them have light barriers now.

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Then that would be a better set up.


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I pretty sure with a that force an even springs in top die, if part was not seated on lower die , an stick up 1/4 inch, I would heard something unusual with 1500 ton force hit part an dies have come together so far, no more no less, even springs on top the top die, do I think I must had part fully seated in lower die or would heard some kind noise if part was not seated correctly, an heard nothing, newer part I never see

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Shouldn't you be asking your foreman all this. instead of the guys on tman.

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Originally Posted by coonman220
I pretty sure with a that force an even springs in top die, if part was not seated on lower die , an stick up 1/4 inch, I would heard something unusual with 1500 ton force hit part an dies have come together so far, no more no less, even springs on top the top die, do I think I must had part fully seated in lower die or would heard some kind noise if part was not seated correctly, an heard nothing, newer part I never see


Don't you have to preform QC (quality control) checks every so often to verify the parts are formed correctly?

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Yes I do, they want u work fast, strict, they have quality inspecter, he never check none mine. Usally before start morning, I never make big mistake. Just notice after while. That some parts seem be lock on die an not lower in one. So I got parnoud an check crate parts to first piece to see if holes in same place, look ok,about 1 out 8 parts. I didn't turn to side to see if lower an lock down as felt in place, I thinking must been, as if not an stick up a 1/4 inch hi on lower die, when hit part top die an come together. At minuim, even springs top die, ur go hear something g wrong as die come close together with metal in between,if part not in right. I think u hear something.probly ok now think about it an not hear thing about it, I dont know what keep ram your something fail an if away that could go down if something fail with arm in it, if did, it gone

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Guess you'll find out tomorrow. I ran a press for a few years long ago. They had safety light curtains and wouldn't cycle unless everyone on the press pressed all the buttons connected to it at the same time. I remember when I was kid, putting the parts in wrong and double stacking them just to see what they'd look like. No one told me it could hurt the dies. lol Guess it never did since I never heard about it.

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dave i used to run a press and some of the dies will kill a guy not watching what he is doing!!!!

had some 3/8's mild steel parts and if the part didn't clear and you hit the next one everyone on that end of the plant heart it. and felt it


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Back in the nineties, I knew a man named Fred, who rented a house on a property I trapped on, who had 20 some feet of steel pipe shoved through his head, when cinder blocks that were used to replace a damaged leg on one machine crumbled and caused the machine that was feeding the pipe to miss the hole. He will always be legally blind and in intense pain, if he is still alive.

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These guys stamp the ends for propane tanks and pressure vessels.
https://compco.com Quite a story, how he started.

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