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Re: Tax returns [Re: hippie] #7004775
09/30/20 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by hippie
Trumps talking chess and Boco is playing checkers.

He missed the part last night where Trump thanked Biden/Obama for giving him the one tax break.

New tax breaks= refunds.

Boco didn't miss it,,,hes just wicked jealous and full of envy because Trump is a multi millionaire,,and was smart enough to use all the tax credits that the dumbocrats set up for folks like him,,and paid less taxes than Boco. BWahahaaaaaa P:S: Bidens a gun grabber. grin


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Re: Tax returns [Re: yotetrapper30] #7004793
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Yep, Biden has admitted many times on camera that he will take your guns. How any self-respecting American could possibly vote for that career swamp creature is beyond me.


Eh...wot?

Re: Tax returns [Re: Lugnut] #7004796
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Originally Posted by Lugnut
Yep, Biden has admitted many times on camera that he will take your guns. How any self-respecting American could possibly vote for that career swamp creature is beyond me.

Yup,,he even said hes gonna get the wannabe Mexican orourke to be in charge of the gun grabbin.


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Re: Tax returns [Re: yotetrapper30] #7004797
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Lol how is this thread still going (as it should) but the gun control threads keep getting deleted?


Asking for educational purposes.

Re: Tax returns [Re: yotetrapper30] #7004800
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James, you haven't answered my question. How does undisclosed sources stand up in court?

Re: Tax returns [Re: teepee2] #7004835
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Precedent has been set for grand juries to hear secret or non disclosed statements and depositions and also they won't even reveal who they were or the transcript so yes if the grand jury feels there is probable cause it will go to court and then we will all know. If the deposition persons feel threatened or their families then witness protection is likely.

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Re: Tax returns [Re: yotetrapper30] #7004849
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That seems like a violation of the Sixth Amendment.


Eh...wot?

Re: Tax returns [Re: Pike River] #7005008
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Originally Posted by Pike River
Lol how is this thread still going (as it should) but the gun control threads keep getting deleted?


Asking for educational purposes.


Shhhhh


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Re: Tax returns [Re: upstateNY] #7005077
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Originally Posted by upstateNY
Originally Posted by hippie
Trumps talking chess and Boco is playing checkers.

He missed the part last night where Trump thanked Biden/Obama for giving him the one tax break.

New tax breaks= refunds.

Boco didn't miss it,,,hes just wicked jealous and full of envy because Trump is a multi millionaire,,and was smart enough to use all the tax credits that the dumbocrats set up for folks like him,,and paid less taxes than Boco. BWahahaaaaaa P:S: Bidens a gun grabber. grin


He is also a gun runner.


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Re: Tax returns [Re: yotetrapper30] #7005147
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This ought to close this thread......


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Re: Tax returns [Re: teepee2] #7005207
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Originally Posted by teepee2
James, you haven't answered my question. How does undisclosed sources stand up in court?


Not well. The same inference against you (that would also apply to a failure to produce evidence, like tax returns) would probably apply to your case.

So if someone sat on the witness stand and refused to reveal a source, the judge or jury would probably make an inference that there is no source.

And if someone refuses to produce tax returns, the inference can be made that there is something in those returns he doesn't want the public to see. His claim that he paid millions in income taxes should be tested. If it's indeed the case he paid millions in income taxes, he could settle the controversy just by releasing the returns.

Why doesn't he?

Jim


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Re: Tax returns [Re: yotetrapper30] #7005211
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First off it's not required of him to release them.

Individual tax returns- including those of public figures — are private information, protected by law from unauthorized disclosure. Indeed, the Internal Revenue Service is barred from releasing any taxpayer information whatsoever, except to authorized agencies and individuals.

Like all other citizens, U.S. presidents enjoy this protection of their privacy. Since the early 1970s, however, most presidents and some vice presidents have chosen to release their returns publicly. In the hope of making this information more widely available,

As you can see it only became "fashionable" to release them in the 70's.


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Re: Tax returns [Re: yotetrapper30] #7005229
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Nice one Nessie, sometimes we forget the real issues.


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Re: Tax returns [Re: James] #7005231
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Originally Posted by James
Originally Posted by teepee2
James, you haven't answered my question. How does undisclosed sources stand up in court?


Not well. The same inference against you (that would also apply to a failure to produce evidence, like tax returns) would probably apply to your case.

So if someone sat on the witness stand and refused to reveal a source, the judge or jury would probably make an inference that there is no source.

And if someone refuses to produce tax returns, the inference can be made that there is something in those returns he doesn't want the public to see. His claim that he paid millions in income taxes should be tested. If it's indeed the case he paid millions in income taxes, he could settle the controversy just by releasing the returns.

Why doesn't he?

Jim


Why do you or anyone even care?


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Re: Tax returns [Re: yotetrapper30] #7005242
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If they could find where the Rev. Al didn’t pay, how come they can’t find Trump not paying?

Between those two, who do you think they worked the hardest to find a discrepancy?


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Re: Tax returns [Re: yotetrapper30] #7005246
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I’m betting the debate changed the country’s minds’ about as much as it changed the ones on here. lol


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Re: Tax returns [Re: yotetrapper30] #7005247
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Obama never released his college or medical records....

why didn't he?

Re: Tax returns [Re: white marlin] #7005250
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Originally Posted by white marlin
Obama never released his college or medical records....

why didn't he?



He didn’t have to?


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Re: Tax returns [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #7005304
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"Why do you or anyone even care?"

Don't you care whether the president has been compromised by foreign interests? Don't you wonder what Eric Trump meant when he said "we have all the money we need from Russia" in relation to the Trump business.

Or what about how the Donald failed to call out Putin for acts of Russian malfeasance, like the Kremlin-approved plan to meddle in our election or the Russian intelligence scheme to pay bounties on US soldiers killed by the Afghans.

Yet Trump still runs around with his nose up Putin's keister. Why is that? It doesn't pass the smell test. I want to see the returns and supporting documentation.

,So we're back to teepee's concern. If we follow the court rules, Donald's refusal to release the evidence that would resolve the controversy results in the issues being resolved against him.

Jim


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Re: Tax returns [Re: yotetrapper30] #7005308
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Fortunately we are innocent until proven guilty.

The burden is on the State.


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