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Re: Metal press work [Re: The Beav] #7005237
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Originally Posted by The Beav
ALL of OUR presses have tethers that you hook up to your wrists. So when the machine Is operating It pulls your hands away from the press.


all ours have "pullbacks"

PLUS, all our operators have a measurement or 2 they take, OR, a sample pc to hold up to compare during production to make sure they make good parts.

YOU could ask for a good part, to use to compare against what you make.


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Re: Metal press work [Re: coonman220] #7005277
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I built stamping dies before I started building injection molds. When I finished one I had to setup the press and sample the die. In my opinion you will wreck stuff putting parts in wrong, or need a toolmaker to help get stuck parts out of die. Good luck to you Dave, a good steady factory job may help you get thru the low fur price years. When I started as a toolmaker the word was computers and CNC machines would make life easier for the people in the trade, all it did was shorten lead times, don't miss the trade at all after 3 years retired.


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Re: Metal press work [Re: coonman220] #7005444
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Every press should have a palm station that both hand had to be on it before machine will cycle. And if more than one person they all had there own station. I ran a 450 ton press when I worked at Bobcat. There were 4 people running it, two in front and two in back. Parts went in the front and came out the back. It was the fastest cycling machine in the shop. It was scary to run the 1st few times.

Re: Metal press work [Re: coonman220] #7005587
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Wish you'd worry about your spelling/ sentence structure as much as you do other things Coonman.

Re: Metal press work [Re: hippie] #7005623
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Originally Posted by hippie
Wish you'd worry about your spelling/ sentence structure as much as you do other things Coonman.


Relax Francis !
Coonman220 types eloquently when he's not worried or excited. It's not his fault, that the yard sale typewriter was a used stenographer machine with only 22 keys.
When you get to typing 250 words a minute; come back and see us.

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Re: Metal press work [Re: hippie] #7005630
10/01/20 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by hippie
Wish you'd worry about your spelling/ sentence structure as much as you do other things Coonman.

Making a living is more important than spelling.

Smoke another hippie

Re: Metal press work [Re: coonman220] #7005670
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I have a 1 ton punch press use it for making 3/16" bear snares.

Then a 5 Ton punch press to make 1/4" and 5/16" bear snares. they both will take your finger off.

Dont want to do that again. Lost 1 finger in 1970 to a table saw while in teck school.


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Re: Metal press work [Re: coonman220] #7005687
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Never heard nothing back, must got right. If hear nothing by tomma, I ok. I pretty sure would at least hesrd noises if part not seated right an to high in lower die. Usally never make mistakes. Probly not, definately not much pay however, work other job an close. An get bresk afternoon, very busy after work run around bs junk in town becsuse no heath ins, an had take bank statements pay stubs to some bldg n lady not there, an had go across town, an shopping, an hurry. Crap gets me ,get ready work agsin , an now sounds like nothing off on medical appt

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Re: Metal press work [Re: Newt] #7005695
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Originally Posted by Newt
I have a 1 ton punch press use it for making 3/16" bear snares.

Then a 5 Ton punch press to make 1/4" and 5/16" bear snares. they both will take your finger off.

Dont want to do that again. Lost 1 finger in 1970 to a table saw while in teck school.

Ya dangerous

Re: Metal press work [Re: ~ADC~] #7005699
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
Guess you'll find out tomorrow. I ran a press for a few years long ago. They had safety light curtains and wouldn't cycle unless everyone on the press pressed all the buttons connected to it at the same time. I remember when I was kid, putting the parts in wrong and double stacking them just to see what they'd look like. No one told me it could hurt the dies. lol Guess it never did since I never heard about it.

Ya they have saftey lite curtains. Killer machine without one.not long time but work with ppl while in press hands an there look around up in air , tromp down on only set palm buttons in press. 2 operaters with only palm buttons for 1 operater, dbl stack parts accidentally, or screwups csn destroy die or break it, get u sent home for day, or fire, leave piece of trim in press, forget it or dbl stack part an stuck die , superviser investigate what happen an why, not fun, I seen temp with pony tail down waist dbl stack big commercial Lennox air cond basez, did once, got part out, he did it again, an a third time. Superviser not happy, I don't know what happen but not see nomore

Re: Metal press work [Re: coonman220] #7005824
10/01/20 07:40 PM
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35 yrs in a big stamping facility.
Handstands with light curtains
Or handstands with a Brake monitor and pinch point calculations for handstands.
Coil fed presses and Robotics lines were gate curtain / light curtain / and or pressure pads.
I've tested and signed Ok for production releases on literally thousands of set-ups in my career.
Misgauged parts always end with die damage of some type.
Broken punches and buttons , chipped cutters, cracked die sections.
My biggest fear everyday when putting people to work was amputation or worse.
So thankful it never happened .
Be safe and keep your eyes open.


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Re: Metal press work [Re: Dillrod] #7006026
10/01/20 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Dillrod
35 yrs in a big stamping facility.
Handstands with light curtains
Or handstands with a Brake monitor and pinch point calculations for handstands.
Coil fed presses and Robotics lines were gate curtain / light curtain / and or pressure pads.
I've tested and signed Ok for production releases on literally thousands of set-ups in my career.
Misgauged parts always end with die damage of some type.
Broken punches and buttons , chipped cutters, cracked die sections.
My biggest fear everyday when putting people to work was amputation or worse.
So thankful it never happened .
Be safe and keep your eyes open.

Never broken any dies, I rember dbl stack part once as first was stuck in top die an not see. It, this was around year ago

Re: Metal press work [Re: dkrug] #7006032
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The guy Goodyear store was white. This was 5 years ago for sure that long ago at least, dtown store. I rember yrs back as expensive, other Goodyear store uptown, exellent, no problems there, at factory. Last year, the temp was black dude, 2 different ppl idk

Re: Metal press work [Re: coonman220] #7008415
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I have decided I had enough bs at this job over wkend thinking about it, I have work lot since younger but at a job for go on 3 years with never a raise. No bonus, vac, benifits. Nothing. An alwsys big responsibility. On increasing difficult do expensive parts, only reason stay was close home an work other job, but it get be to that in trouble go restroom between bresk or if back rest on crate in-between parts that lean against, it while wait for partner, in trouble.i need some money but enough Is enougb, everyone else got small raise recently, i never hesrd nothing, next time I hear some bunk, I gonna have tell them where go, hate mangement, I email hr next door at warehouse, pay same but no gurantee hrs, to bad not lay off on unemployment. In fall, or in 2 years if around. Work pt an soacil security. An trapping hobby

Re: Metal press work [Re: coonman220] #7008428
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I assume your old enough for what I call regular SS? I wouldn’t want anyone to collect SS disability AND work pt. Further waste of my tax dollars.

Re: Metal press work [Re: coonman220] #7008541
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I not able get disability if working. How could u possibly Work much an get it, I believe to get it, earn less $11-$1200.month an maybe, if I try , probly. But long wait. No I not old enough for regular soacil security but not far, in year half about. Plan on it if still around. If I was that age. I be done that place in less minute gone.

Re: Metal press work [Re: coonman220] #7008555
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Re: Metal press work [Re: coonman220] #7008578
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Seat the part. Put both of your hands behind your back and press the peddle.
Do that every time and you'll be OK.
If you are worried about your parts call your supervisor over and ask.
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Re: Metal press work [Re: coonman220] #7010854
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So now I find out there hire black guys sedonna at 65 more cents hr. Than me, an i am be used as trainer, this stuff is pathetic. No raise like everyone else. I reslly go Complain, I don't think I tolerate it am keep work there very much longer, they get big tax cut on minorities, the hr in front me other day, at stop sign,kept stop, like 4 times. Knew I in hurry, want me hit bumper,collect ins Money

Re: Metal press work [Re: coonman220] #7010864
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