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Political thread that isn't political #7007875
10/03/20 08:24 PM
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So doing some thinking today.

But first let me say this discussion should be about principles not politicians, namely those issues near and dear to us as trappers. The biggun is 2A but we also dabble in things like individual liberties, consumptive use of wild and domestic animal life and natural resources. I would even opine we share some social issue concerns such as how we rear our younguns and what they are taught.

Now to the thinking part, if the current administration is reelected it will be done so with a coalition of voters. I would think voters of our mindset will be a large part but maybe not a majority of that.
It's these other voters I am thinking of. While they may vote for a candidate we find favorable to our position let's not kid ourselves this coalition will return for future elections. So what can we do or should be doing to network with other parts of this coalition.

Namely I'm thinking of voters who for whatever reason will be voting correctly for the first time in their lives. If social media is to be believed there's a large group of brand new first time gun owners who for the first time in their lives have come to the realization that their own safety is a personal responsibility. Many of these folks found it shocking the restrictions placed upon them to do so. Others being reported on are ethnicities that historically voted en masse as some sort of group think.
Then there are others who grudgingly came to the conclusion that they have been subjected to decades of misinformation and are willing to give the other side a try.

Now to my way of thinking a single election is just that, a single blip on the radar, and the long parade of history has shown a steady if not constant erosion of what we hold dear. If we are to hope to reverse this we need elections over a long period that promote right thinking individuals. To do this we need to hold this coalition for several more cycles and to recruit others to our side.

So what are we doing to reach out to those recently joined to our cause?


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Re: Political thread that isn't political [Re: warrior] #7007890
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Calling them Libtards?


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Re: Political thread that isn't political [Re: warrior] #7007895
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Re: Political thread that isn't political [Re: warrior] #7007901
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Maybe its not so much what to do as what not to do. Such as politicizing other individual choices that is on a lesser scale than the 2nd?

Re: Political thread that isn't political [Re: warrior] #7007933
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That is true, as my pastor likes to remind me. We can always work on the other things later if they need working on.


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Re: Political thread that isn't political [Re: warrior] #7007941
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The gun issue is not being talked about in this election. It needs to brought to the fore front.

Re: Political thread that isn't political [Re: warrior] #7007946
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Originally Posted by warrior
That is true, as my pastor likes to remind me. We can always work on the other things later if they need working on.

I had an old preacher lined me out one time that it is the Lords job to work on people and our job to work with them.

Re: Political thread that isn't political [Re: Rat Masterson] #7007980
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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
The gun issue is not being talked about in this election. It needs to brought to the fore front.


Maybe, maybe not. If a gun owner needs convincing then by all means but at this point I don't care why a person votes as long as they vote right.
I do know I don't want to turn away a single vote by saying the wrong thing at the wrong time. There will be time for other discussions for later.


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Re: Political thread that isn't political [Re: warrior] #7008031
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It has been said,and I believe there is quite a bit of truth to it that more people vote to get rid of someone they dislike than those who vote to keep someone they like.
In other words more people are motivated to vote someone out than vote someone in.
That is why the most effective political advertizing is negative.

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Re: Political thread that isn't political [Re: Rat Masterson] #7008043
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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
The gun issue is not being talked about in this election. It needs to brought to the fore front.


I was interested in seeing whether Biden would push gun control head on or tap-dance around the issue, but Wallace didn't ask a single question about the gun issue.

I be the issue will come up in one of the remaining debates--if they still happen.

Jim


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Re: Political thread that isn't political [Re: warrior] #7008059
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Its been years since I even knew how to play poker but isn't sandbagging good sometimes, so maybe the gun thing may be a grand stand slam and with the virus one more good shot may be is all that is left, and somebody is keeping their powder dry for that good shot.

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Biden will deny he said he would take " ARs" and most of the media will not cover that he said it.

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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
Biden will deny he said he would take " ARs" and most of the media will not cover that he said it.


Hopefully they can't put the genie back in the bottle!

Re: Political thread that isn't political [Re: James] #7008068
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Originally Posted by James
Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
The gun issue is not being talked about in this election. It needs to brought to the fore front.


I was interested in seeing whether Biden would push gun control head on or tap-dance around the issue, but Wallace didn't ask a single question about the gun issue.

I be the issue will come up in one of the remaining debates--if they still happen.

Jim

Not likely in the next debate. The moderator is a former Biden aide. They partied together. crazy

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Re: Political thread that isn't political [Re: warrior] #7008070
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Okay I think minds are made up at this point. I doubt any on here will change theirs so let's drop the endorsements please.

I will say that IMO at this point its going to be a turn out election. The two sides are pretty well entrenched and it'll boil down to just how many show up. While I'm not counting eggs yet I do think the initial count will go red in a big way with, hopefully, a major flip or two. I won't even bother to guess how many boxes are found in how many trunks in the days after though.

What interests me, if I am correct, just what motivates one to walk away from one to the other and how to retain the same.


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Re: Political thread that isn't political [Re: warrior] #7008193
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Prior to Election Day I asked my team when they preferred to vote and made arrangements to their schedule to accommodate their choice.


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Re: Political thread that isn't political [Re: warrior] #7008509
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Another thought today. I have them from time time and it usually hurts. LOL

Okay, let's say these new converts hang around. What's to stop the other side from continuing to churn out zombies from what passes as institutions of higher learning these days?

JMO, but kung flu and the shut down of the schools may have a silver lining getting more folks aware of what goes on in the public indoctrination camps.


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Re: Political thread that isn't political [Re: warrior] #7008512
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BTW, my own 12yo has come to me with some comments that I know she didn't learn from me or her mother. I will be doing some investigating.


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