Re: Muzzle loader guys
[Re: super cub]
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10/06/20 01:40 PM
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777 is a good powder
the FFG granulation should be good for your 50 I shot it for about 5 years before I found a good source for real back
it is also very common all over so if you run out finding another can should be easy.
it is a little hydroscopic so store it in a dry location and only open one can at a time and use it up in a couple years .
if you put some in speed loaders and carried them all through your hunt , just dump the powder in the speed loaders rather than putting it back in the can
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Re: Muzzle loader guys
[Re: super cub]
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10/06/20 01:57 PM
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incase no one mentioned it yet you Don't let the sun rise on a dirty muzzle loader meaning if you fire a shot you want to have the barrel cleaned within 12 hours preferably. hot water and dish soap is works just fine for cleaning a muzzle loader there are a million products out there and none of them really do much of anything that dish soap and hat water doesn't do. Solutions looking for a buyer is about all. here is some info on muzzle loader https://trapperman.com/forum/ubbthr...dvice-needed-on-muzzleloader#Post6384113
Last edited by GREENCOUNTYPETE; 10/06/20 02:29 PM.
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Re: Muzzle loader guys
[Re: Huntall76]
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10/06/20 05:40 PM
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777 will leave a hard ring of build up at the ignition point. some of that is mitigated by using only natural lube and not mineral oils if you use anti-seize on the threads put it in back it out a 1/4 turn then go in till it touches but is not tight the crud ring doesn't seem to be hard on getting the breach plug out it isn't that hard to clean for hunting where you take 1-3 shots between cleaning it really isn't bad if you have a range close , making multiple trips firing only 1-3 rounds and really keeping track of round one can help to get you ready , and develop a cleaning routine that gets consistency. in muzzle loader hunting every round is essentially a clean cold bore round , so practicing that clean cold bore round is ideal.
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Re: Muzzle loader guys
[Re: super cub]
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10/06/20 05:49 PM
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Congrats on the new rifle SC! I’m a Blackhorn believer after starting with 777, then trying Pyrodex. The Blackhorn is just better. Worth looking for IMO.
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Re: Muzzle loader guys
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10/06/20 05:55 PM
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I have not personally used the Buckhorn, but have several close friends that do. It is hard to ignite so you might have issues since you can’t use 209 primers. The Buckhorn website even mentions to use regular 209 primers as they are hotter than the muzzleloader specific 209 primers. I use FFFG equivalent 777 but with a regular 209. It does leave a crust ring but I swab with a spit patch between shots for best accuracy, but it will tolerate a quick follow up shot without spit patching just fine. CCI makes a magnum 209 primer and it works great for Blackhorn. I did not know that CVA still made an Optima without a 209 ignition system...surprising.
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Re: Muzzle loader guys
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10/06/20 06:14 PM
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I use the CCI primers with Blackhorn. No problems thus far.
I trap for fun. I skin 'em for the money! Grinners For Life-Lifetime Member, MO Chapter, Den #1 ~You Grin, You're In~
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Re: Muzzle loader guys
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10/06/20 06:23 PM
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I forgot to say we have to use loose powder, no sabots and musket caps no 209 primers Sorry just read this post . Stay away from blackhorn 209 powder if you can't use 209 primers, you'll likely get a failure to fire or a hang fire.
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Re: Muzzle loader guys
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10/06/20 06:37 PM
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The primers are cci 209m and federal 209a . Those are the hot primers. I really like the Federal Champion 209A primers. I have performed a good bit of chronograph testing with various primers, powder charges, and sabots. All other things being equal the Federal Champion 209A very consistent and accurate
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Re: Muzzle loader guys
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10/06/20 07:13 PM
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Wish I could help, but I'm old school and still use Goex loose powder. With yah on that Hippie...
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Re: Muzzle loader guys
[Re: Nessmuck]
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10/06/20 08:00 PM
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Wish I could help, but I'm old school and still use Goex loose powder. With yah on that Hippie... I'm with both of you. Except when I'm shooting my savage ml2. Then I shoot smokeless powder in it.
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