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Re: Bait in pocket set water trapping [Re: coonman220] #7009485
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For mink, what works for me is half a blue gill and a spritz of mink urine.


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Re: Bait in pocket set water trapping [Re: bblwi] #7009541
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Originally Posted by bblwi
High moisture shell corn which is fermented in a silo prior to me using it. Gives off more odor


Bryce

Hard for me get that , how do u apply food grade mollases, ? I am thinking a messy and idea that attracts non target. I afraid fish is about only good mink bait, oftentimes stole from pocket in coon sets. Found down or up creek or other side. Or in front trap , mink steal bait at coon sets

Re: Bait in pocket set water trapping [Re: coonman220] #7009564
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It was molasses from the feed mill, not food grade. I pay about 20 cents per lbs. I took an empty ice cream bucket down and got a $1s worth. You can make some high moisture corn by taking dry whole kernel corn and add some water to a bucket and cover. Stir so it does not rot etc. Not as good as high moisture. If you know a farm with a sealed silo they use for grain they may have HMSC.

Yes you stir that up. Messy? maybe, not much different then carp chunks, fish heads, muskrat carcasses etc. I freeze in plastic bags and use a large spoon. I did state I don't use much for bait anymore. Now I mostly use a narrow PVC pipe pounded in the ground. I fit a large marshmallow down about half inch or so in the pipe and that holds my home made lure. I use this mostly on the water line. I slowed down bait use on dry land sets because it lowered my non coon catches. Probably lowered coon catch but really lowered the non target catches.

Bryce

Re: Bait in pocket set water trapping [Re: coonman220] #7009652
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Fist size chunk of carp is all I use. Told you that years ago, Dave when you'd come buy my house in Blue Grass/Buffalo, Iowa.


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Re: Bait in pocket set water trapping [Re: coonman220] #7009659
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Half a duck or rat carcass pinned up in the back of the hole

Re: Bait in pocket set water trapping [Re: Kelly] #7009839
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Originally Posted by Kelly
Fist size chunk of carp is all I use. Told you that years ago, Dave when you'd come buy my house in Blue Grass/Buffalo, Iowa.

Hopefully can get some fish bought

Re: Bait in pocket set water trapping [Re: coonman220] #7009852
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Re: Bait in pocket set water trapping [Re: bblwi] #7009913
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Originally Posted by bblwi
It was molasses from the feed mill, not food grade. I pay about 20 cents per lbs. I took an empty ice cream bucket down and got a $1s worth. You can make some high moisture corn by taking dry whole kernel corn and add some water to a bucket and cover. Stir so it does not rot etc. Not as good as high moisture. If you know a farm with a sealed silo they use for grain they may have HMSC.

Yes you stir that up. Messy? maybe, not much different then carp chunks, fish heads, muskrat carcasses etc. I freeze in plastic bags and use a large spoon. I did state I don't use much for bait anymore. Now I mostly use a narrow PVC pipe pounded in the ground. I fit a large marshmallow down about half inch or so in the pipe and that holds my home made lure. I use this mostly on the water line. I slowed down bait use on dry land sets because it lowered my non coon catches. Probably lowered coon catch but really lowered the non target catches.

Bryce

I have most bag of dry crack shell corn I got farm fleet, would that work ?

Re: Bait in pocket set water trapping [Re: coonman220] #7011268
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So if decide make some speacil homemade bait, what is cheapest. When buy fish at Walmart or wherever. ? Jack mckranel at Walmart for cheap generic can water down stuff is over $1.50 a can, about enough for 2 pocket sets in can unless. Mix other stuff, I intersested fish mink bait , what is cheapest route to go an what store

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Re: Bait in pocket set water trapping [Re: coonman220] #7011273
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You'll not buy canned fish that is worth a crap for mink. You need fresh fish imo. Coons, it wouldn't matter.

Re: Bait in pocket set water trapping [Re: coonman220] #7011310
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I use muskrat.

Re: Bait in pocket set water trapping [Re: ~ADC~] #7011313
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
You'll not buy canned fish that is worth a crap for mink. You need fresh fish imo. Coons, it wouldn't matter.
Thanks for let me know that, some construction guy on bs.told me that either a teaspoon of jack or some other stuff in can was best mink bait, I stupid enough believe it, water rats or just mice would have teaspoon gone well bfore dark, muskrat meat then, should save last year's. But I don't know if freeze well

Re: Bait in pocket set water trapping [Re: coonman220] #7011317
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Originally Posted by coonman220
muskrat meat then, should save last year's. But I don't know if freeze well


It keeps just fine in the freezer for a year, chop each one into your chunks and put each rat into a ziplock type bag and squeeze out most of the air and drop them in the freezer. Put the bags in a 5 gallon bucket with a lid for even more protection.

Re: Bait in pocket set water trapping [Re: coonman220] #7011334
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I always did well with the rest of the frog, after the back legs were cut off, split in half and microwaved for 4 minutes from frozen. The smell is very strong and I usually connected on most sets the first night, in good locations.

Keith

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Originally Posted by KeithC
I always did well with the rest of the frog, after the back legs were cut off, split in half and microwaved for 4 minutes from frozen. The smell is very strong and I usually connected on most sets the first night, in good locations.

Keith


Nearly every mink I ever checked had frog parts in their stomach contents. Coonman would only be able to be in possession of 12 bullfrogs legally, but they would be pretty easy to collect on most any pond around. Leopard frogs would be high limit but harder to come by around here.

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Daily Bag & Possession Limits: All waters - All frogs except bullfrogs and crawfish frogs combined
daily: 48 and possession: 96. Bullfrogs combined daily and possession: 12. Crawfish frogs are protected as
an endangered species.

Re: Bait in pocket set water trapping [Re: coonman220] #7011374
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I don't think get frogs. I wouldnt have heart to kill them really, need more 12, I very hard on bait. I find frogs hibernate in water, sometime but not often, snakes

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Using muskrat as bait near water will get you some incidental rats which is not a bad thing when mink are about the same price.


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Re: Bait in pocket set water trapping [Re: ~ADC~] #7011378
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
Originally Posted by KeithC
I always did well with the rest of the frog, after the back legs were cut off, split in half and microwaved for 4 minutes from frozen. The smell is very strong and I usually connected on most sets the first night, in good locations.

Keith


Nearly every mink I ever checked had frog parts in their stomach contents. Coonman would only be able to be in possession of 12 bullfrogs legally, but they would be pretty easy to collect on most any pond around. Leopard frogs would be high limit but harder to come by around here.

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Daily Bag & Possession Limits: All waters - All frogs except bullfrogs and crawfish frogs combined
daily: 48 and possession: 96. Bullfrogs combined daily and possession: 12. Crawfish frogs are protected as
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When I said the smell was very strong, I kind of understated it. The smell of microwaved frog tops and guts was strong enough I could find my sets by smell too.

I sell tons of other animals to a company that makes food for reptiles. They make a slurry like frog juice, from imported Chinese frog legs, that they sell in tiny bottles, for putting on other animals to get reptiles that prefer frogs to eat them. It only takes a few drops.

Keith

Re: Bait in pocket set water trapping [Re: coonman220] #7011395
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I had good luck using canned mackeral. til I had some rat carcus to use. I would use a big pinch full in my fingers in back of the pocket and wipe the roof down with my fingers as I pulled my hand out. It probably out-did the rat for bait by a little. I surely wouldnt use fish or any meat with molasses corn or cherry mixed in with it if I wanted mink.

Re: Bait in pocket set water trapping [Re: coonman220] #7011435
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I'm not sure why you would put corn In pocket set.


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