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Re: big bang was not the beginning?
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. Flood myths are widespread, but they are not all the same myth. Theydiffer in many important aspects, including • reasons for the flood. (Most do not give a reason.)
who survived. (Almost none have only a family of eight surviving.)
what they took with them. (Very few saved samples of all life.)
how they survived. (In about half the myths, people escaped to highground; some flood myths have no survivors.)
what they did afterwards. (Few feature any kind of sacrificeafter the flood.)
If the world's flood myths arose from a common source, then we wouldexpect evidence of common descent. An analysis of their similaritiesand differences should show either a branching tree such as theevolutionary tree of life, or, if the original biblical myth waspreserved unchanged, the differences should be greater the further onegets from Babylon. Neither pattern matches the evidence. Flood mythsare best explained by repeated independent origins with some localspread and some spread by missionaries. The biblical flood myth inparticular has close parallels only to other myths from the sameregion, with which it probably shares a common source, and to versionsspread to other cultures by missionaries
Flood myths are likely common because floods are common; the commonnessof the myth in no way implies a global flood. Myths about snakes areeven more common than myths about floods, but that does not mean therewas once one snake surrounding the entire earth.
Some years ago, I posted on here something I found pretty much proof of a massive flood. It happened while I was elk hunting near Maybell, CO. One of the guys I hunted with worked his way up to the top of a mountain. When he came down he said what he found was unbelievable. He found seashells on top! When he picked them up, they were so fragile, they pretty much disintegrated. He put some in his pocket, but by the time he got down, they had turned to mostly powder. He swore up and down that they were seashells laying there.
The difference between animals and humans is that animals would never let the dumbest ones lead the pack.
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Re: big bang was not the beginning?
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LOL, T7!
Your seashells were once on the bottom of an ancient sea, that got uplifted by mountain-building from continental drift.
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Re: big bang was not the beginning?
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Why is it that no one can start a science thread without it being taken over by theology?
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Re: big bang was not the beginning?
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Why is it that no one can start a science thread without it being taken over by theology?
Jim Maybe the two are not so far apart as you think?
Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
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Re: big bang was not the beginning?
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Why is it that no one can start a science thread without it being taken over by theology?
Jim Maybe it's because the narrative surrounding Big Bang Theory is this: First there was nothing. Then it exploded!
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Why is it that no one can start a science thread without it being taken over by theology?
Jim Place is full of bible thumpers.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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That would be Jesus believers. And yes, I is one.
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Why is it that no one can start a science thread without it being taken over by theology?
Jim Why is it that no one can start a conversation at a city hall without the attorneys taking over?
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Why is it that no one can start a science thread without it being taken over by theology?
Jim For the most prt I have given up on these kind of threads as there is sure to be someone with the old something from nothing bs turn up and drag it down.
Let's go Brandon
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The article i posted the link too describes a POSSIBILITY. No one said its a fact. I found it interesting.
Something from nothing is the kind of stuff people say who are afraid they may have to rethink part of their belief system.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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All the possibilities may be interesting along with all the countless theories investigated.
We've seen that many of the sciences were actually begun by theologians seeking answers to the world around them.
James, perhaps some of us offer a theological view because we live in a country founded on a declaration of independence drafted with the theme of the Christian God woven into every page.
Each of us is blessed to live in America. Progressivism has been and continues to be catastrophic for our country's "faith" in God, form of government, and constitution, but no more horrendous than its effects on American families.
We pray some would offer grace to those who believe that this nation under God, and all these possibilities, and all these theories, are wondrous, but...
there's only been one who was publicly killed and died, was placed in a tomb no mortal could escape from, who then rose from the grave and walked among people three days later.
That changed everything.
Forever.
Blessings,
Mark
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Why is it that no one can start a science thread without it being taken over by theology?
Jim Why is it that no one can start a conversation at a city hall without the attorneys taking over? Why is a particular whiner always getting threads axed because he doesn't like the truth being spoken?
Life ain't supposed to be easy.
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Because he's an attention-seeking troll with nothing better to do?
Eh...wot?
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Re: big bang was not the beginning?
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Suppose the laws of physics had been a bit different from what they actually are, what would the consequences be? (Davies, 2006). … The chances that the universe should be life permitting are so infinitesimal as to be incomprehensible and incalculable. … The finely tuned universe is like a panel that controls the parameters of the universe with about 100 knobs that can be set to certain values. … If you turn any knob just a little to the right or to the left, the result is either a universe that is inhospitable to life or no universe at all. If the Big Bang had been just slightly stronger or weaker, matter would not have condensed, and life never would have existed. The odds against our universe developing were “enormous” – and yet here we are, a point that equates with religious implications… https://evolutionnews.org/2020/10/b...FSDR3cGn5gUpgAxy2-Tzfu2Iuud0bk3pdg8C0ok8
Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
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According to "science", which is manmade, neither bumblebees or helicopters should be able to fly, except they can. So there's that.
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According to "science", which is manmade, neither bumblebees or helicopters should be able to fly, except they can. So there's that. That's nonsense, same as seashells being in a mountain is proof of a flood. There was a time those mountains weren't there and there will come a time they erode away.
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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