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Re: 25th Amendment [Re: SNIPERB🦝] #7013244
10/09/20 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by SNIPERB🦝
Originally Posted by cfowler
The ďor of such other body as Congress shall provide by law,Ē. Whom might make up this body? Thatís where it could get interesting.

They'd have to push a law through to do so.

AND? Itís 2020, I wouldnít dismiss any possibility at this point.


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Re: 25th Amendment [Re: cfowler] #7013274
10/09/20 08:01 PM
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No way they can get any law passed to remove Trump. Even if it passed the House and Senate, Trump would still have to sign it. Do you really think he's going to do that ?

This is obviously aimed at Biden.

Also if you carefully read section 4 of 25A it is clear that even if Congress should appoint................"or other such body"....it would STILL require the agreement of the Vice President. Notice the actual wording..."unless the Vice President and a majority...."


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Re: 25th Amendment [Re: white17] #7013278
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Originally Posted by white17
No way they can get any law passed to remove Trump. Even if it passed the House and Senate, Trump would still have to sign it. Do you really think he's going to do that ?

This is obviously aimed at Biden.

Also if you carefully read section 4 of 25A it is clear that even if Congress should appoint................"or other such body"....it would STILL require the agreement of the Vice President. Notice the actual wording..."unless the Vice President and a majority...."

X2. What president, be they democrat or republican, would sign such legislation limiting the power of the executive branch.


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Re: 25th Amendment [Re: cfowler] #7013283
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True. Also Congress certainly can pass a statute to facilitate execution of the 25 A but they can't pass a statute that essentially alters 25A. That would require a new amendment or repeal of the existing.


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Re: 25th Amendment [Re: cfowler] #7013300
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At her presser Pelosi said she wants to set up a "commission" , to investigate a presidents physical and mental health.

Re: 25th Amendment [Re: cfowler] #7013302
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They should check hers!!!!

Re: 25th Amendment [Re: cfowler] #7013304
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Agree, she should go first.

Re: 25th Amendment [Re: cfowler] #7013451
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Pelosi is not planning on using the 25th on Trump, she's planning on using it on Biden. She's just sowing the seeds of thought right now.


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Re: 25th Amendment [Re: waggler] #7013453
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Historically getting mental or health information that is accurate or correct is not easy. Having a way to get that information and being able to make solid decisions could be difficult at best.
Examples of cases like Woodrow Wilson and his severe stroke and FDR with critical congestive heart failure before the 1944 election and others indicate that being forthright with presidential health issues is not common practice.

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Re: 25th Amendment [Re: waggler] #7013502
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Originally Posted by waggler
Pelosi is not planning on using the 25th on Trump, she's planning on using it on Biden. She's just sowing the seeds of thought right now.


I think she is planning to use it on Trump in the next 4 years. The only question is will the dems use it first or try another round of Stormy/Russians/Impeachment.

Re: 25th Amendment [Re: cfowler] #7013546
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Unfortunately, I donít think it matters how unfit for the presidency or how radical a candidate is. People have their minds made up. Iíve seen a lot of people Iíd considered left make a pretty big swing the other way. Iíve also seen so many people set on party voting that theyíre going to ride that Trojan horse into the Whitehouse no matter what.


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Re: 25th Amendment [Re: cfowler] #7013554
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this polarization is getting insane. d and r used to not be so far apart.

how did we get from pretty much everyone being libertarian in the 19th century to more more more government intrusion being so popular in the 21st???????????????


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Re: 25th Amendment [Re: danny clifton] #7013564
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
this polarization is getting insane. d and r used to not be so far apart.

how did we get from pretty much everyone being libertarian in the 19th century to more more more government intrusion being so popular in the 21st???????????????



Technology.... Which led to laziness. Which led to .gov dependence.

Ol'dad


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Re: 25th Amendment [Re: cfowler] #7013570
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If Biden wins, I think there will be enormous pressure from both wings of the Democrat party to influence/remove him. There are surely some sane/moderate Democrats left who understand that the platform created to placate the idiots on the left will do extreme harm to our country and economy. I think the next civil war we see will be intraparty and amongst the Democrats.

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Re: 25th Amendment [Re: Kansas Cat] #7013769
10/10/20 01:59 PM
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I don't think Biden will get ridden out of Dodge by Dems if he wins, especially if the GOP holds the senate. Legislation by nature with that alignment will be more centrist or moderate to get passed and not vetoed. If the Dems win the senate and hold the house and Biden wins most likely the first two major attempts will be upgrading the ACA and rolling out a major infrastructure program and continue to support COVID related economic recovery, albeit probably more from the employee aspect.

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Re: 25th Amendment [Re: mudtracker] #7013943
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Originally Posted by mudtracker
At some point these actions are almost like mutiny or treason

No almost about it, but who's gonna push prosecution? They own the Gubmint.


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