The percentage of those who take illegal drugs that cause societal issues compared to those who drink alcohol is much higher. The difference is there are far, far more people consuming alcohol then using illegal drugs. Also there are not many people enabling a meth user but there are millions and millions that enable the alcohol abuser and the societal cost if truly compiled would be alarming to all of us.

Bryce

I live in a village of 800 where Alcohol is illegal and Pot is legal. No stores here sell either.

This past week we had one murder a high school kid got beat to death. And in a separate incidence had a guy get shot in the face in a gunfight.

Both alcohol fueled as is always the case.

Still waiting to hear of a death or bad accident from a pot smoker.

Yea,the mexican drug cartels are a real bunch of choirboys I hear

They are not a problem at all here.

The end justifies the means for you I see.

Your babbling again.

If you want to send your tax dollars to Mexico to fight the boogie man go right ahead. See how well that has worked.

Most drugs come from China and Canada, you know Canadian Mist, Canadian Club , Windsor etc... is all available here. The Mexican stuff not at all... you guys are the cartel ..lol

I don't know anybody that is sober because of laws. Anybody that wants to get high or drunk is getting drunk or high.

Everybody has lost a tremendous amount of freedom.

People never used to demand that Law Enforcement be defunded till law enforcement became a branch of the military.

Street gangs exist to distribute drugs. Mafia came into existence to distribute ethanol.

There has to be a victim or there is no crime. People who commit crimes are incarcerated as punishment and deterrent but primarily to protect the public from the criminal.

Drug profits are unimaginably large. The most profitable commodity by a huge margin. That money has corrupted our entire judicial system from the rookie deputy all the way to the whitehouse.


It has been close to 100 years that drugs have been criminalized. The percent of the population that is using has never changed. There have been no positives of any kind. If criminalization was going to work it would have by now. It has only created more problems.

Worse drug out there in my eyes is tobacco. It had its grip on me back in the day. Easily obtainable by kids. Most can pick a butt right off the street or in an ashtray anywhere

It has been close to 100 years that drugs have been criminalized. The percent of the population that is using has never changed. There have been no positives of any kind. If criminalization was going to work it would have by now. It has only created more problems.
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It hasn't changed in a hundred years?You're dreaming.It's skyrocketed in the mid '60's and it's been there ever since.And it isn't all about alcohol

Just like money is not the root of all evil, but the love of money! Drugs really aren't the problem, but the abuse of drugs. I can guarantee you that each one on this site knows a drug abuser, whether you realize it or not. Alcohol, pot, meth, crack, or OPIOIDS, are all drugs. Just distributed by different types of people. It's not my position to judge others with what they do with their body! I drink a few every weekend, not being critical of anyone else. But am I being a hypocrite because I refuse to allow my young kids to drink or a responsible adult?

You are getting ridiculous.

I have no kids, no one is getting killed for having a dime bag, why would you even write that sentence, what was the point? You are looking for the most obscene scenarios and trying to paint them as the norm.

Guns are protected by the constitution, grasping at straws is trying to compare guns and drugs.

I could care less if someone buys raw milk or meat butchered on the farm. I do not think every single regulation is leading to a slippery slope. If you fail to see the difference between a bit of hamburger and a baggie of meth it is not really worth discussing further. Like I said previously the Libertarian dreamland of Somalia already exist, you can move there and have little to no government regulation and oversite.

As pointed out, Alcohol is the most used and abused drug there is, the reason is obvious, it is well accepted and easily obtainable. You want Drugs to be as easily attainable as Booze? You want someone to turn 21 and have the ability to go down to the grocery store and pick up some Heroin with less societal judgement and no possible legal ramifications?

The "war on drugs" has not been a war, its been a BS skirmish. We have the ability to find Osama Bin Laden hiding in Pakistan and send in helos to take him out but you think we cant get dealers off the streets if we wanted to?

I think it all comes down to personal self-discipline. A body has to have water to survive, but too much water will kill you too. You cannot help someone who won't help themselves.

No Buck. People just quit hiding. The percentage has never changed

donnersurvivor believe it or not we are on the same page. I also wonder why cruise missiles don't take out Mexican meth labs and C140's are not spraying roundup on opium poppies in Afghanistan and coca fields in Columbia and Peru.

It is money. Lots and lots and lots of money. The same reason a 13 year old can buy heroin easier than a cigarette. Money is the reason that the percentage of the population using heroin and cocaine has never changed. Big money is why drugs are EVERYWHERE.

Lying to the public about the dangers of drugs makes people wonder what e l se is being lied about. I was told in Jr High that smoking marijuanna or taking LSD would damage my chromosomes and my children would be born with birth defects.

There is no war on drugs. T h e war is really on liberty.

I watched a TV program that stated that marijuana is California's #1 agricultural crop. Some of the waterways have been drained dry by use of irrigation.
Now in several states it's illegal to even catch rainwater off your roof for personal use, and illegal to build a pond on your property to catch runoff from rains.

One of biggest border confiscations happened this weekend,

CPB discovered 1,816 packages co-mingled with medical supplies. Included in the haul was approximately 3,014 pounds of methamphetamine, 64 pounds of heroin, 29 pounds of fentanyl powder and almost 37 pounds of fentanyl pills, worth an estimated $7.2 million.



A Mexican citizen was arrested.

I think there's a small sign in the lower right hand trailer corner that reads; "Do not send to AK."

I don’t know that the government is to blame for that as much as lawyers and the people that hire them.

Apparently you’ve never seen what happens to people that just have to have it and don’t pay their “bill.”

Boy Howdy Donner, you sure want to do a lot of killin

I'll give ya credit though, you won't go off on and espouse morality and Christianity(not throwing that at you Mark June, I don't recall you being flippant with the death penalty.)

Tertius scribed Paul's words to the Romans.
This here thread reads like parts of that text and it'd sure be a bunch better for our grandkids, children, and us if it read like the other parts.

Blessings,
Mark

Killing ain’t hard, it’s living with it afterwards.

Ill accept that burden so the rest of you don't have to carry it.