Difference between 5.56 and .223 ?
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As far as I can see the only difference seems to be that the 5.56 develops more pressure than the .223 and the .223 is aboat .04mm larger at the neck than the 5.56. The 5.56 seems to be primarily the military round? It seems more sensible to me to go with the .223 and forget the 5.56. #FoGetAboutIt. Opinions?
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Re: Difference between 5.56 and .223 ?
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As far as I can see the only difference seems to be that the 5.56 develops more pressure than the .223 and the .223 is aboat .04mm larger at the neck than the 5.56. The 5.56 seems to be primarily the military round? It seems more sensible to me to go with the .223 and forget the 5.56. #FoGetAboutIt. Opinions? Get an AR-15 (if that's really the question) that is chambered in.556 that way, you can shoot either. However, you can't do that the other way around. You can't shoot .556 out of a .223 rifle.
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Re: Difference between 5.56 and .223 ?
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But the .223 is a tadbit less accurate than the 5.56 when shot through a 5.56? I'm learning.
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Re: Difference between 5.56 and .223 ?
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A distinction without a difference. If reloading manuals don't list them separately, why would I?
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Re: Difference between 5.56 and .223 ?
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The difference at the neck is because of the mil spec brass. Dimensionally they are identical. The chambers however are not. The 5.56x45 chamber has a longer throat than the 223R and the Wylde is between the two. The 5.56x45 as a mil spec round is loaded a bit hotter than the 223R and can produce pressure spikes in the shorter throated chamber of the 223. Thats about it in a nutshell. I use a wylde chambered rifle and run pressures in the upper 5.56 range.
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Re: Difference between 5.56 and .223 ?
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The difference at the neck is because of the mil spec brass. Dimensionally they are identical. The chambers however are not. The 5.56x45 chamber has a longer throat than the 223R and the Wylde is between the two. The 5.56x45 as a mil spec round is loaded a bit hotter than the 223R and can produce pressure spikes in the shorter throated chamber of the 223. Thats about it in a nutshell. I use a wylde chambered rifle and run pressures in the upper 5.56 range. Gotcha. I was thinking the bullet was different sizes. Casing makes sense. I'm a slow learner, but I do learn slowly.
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Re: Difference between 5.56 and .223 ?
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The difference at the neck is because of the mil spec brass. Dimensionally they are identical. The chambers however are not. The 5.56x45 chamber has a longer throat than the 223R and the Wylde is between the two. The 5.56x45 as a mil spec round is loaded a bit hotter than the 223R and can produce pressure spikes in the shorter throated chamber of the 223. Thats about it in a nutshell. I use a wylde chambered rifle and run pressures in the upper 5.56 range. I always thought they were the same, military just likes to use metric and the civilian world "caliber" measures of a hundredths of an inch. Reminds me of when someone I knew was in the Army and "brought home" some MG ball 7.62. We used to hunt jackrabbit with our .308s--I know that's crazy but this is South Dakota-- and we used a 110 gr hollow point. Redailed a bit to shoot this MG ball stuff. Man, those loads were a lot hotter than our handloads pushing that 110 hp!!
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Re: Difference between 5.56 and .223 ?
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[ Gotcha. I was thinking the bullet was different sizes. Casing makes sense. I'm a slow learner, but I do learn slowly. The bullet is .224 in diameter for both. The case of the military stuff is just thicker walled. On a side note, this also makes for slightly less internal volume of the case. That also leads to higher pressures if loaded with the same amount of powder , same OAL and same bullet. Thats why one should never mix case makes for accurate loads as there will be inconsistencies in pressures due to the different volume and neck tension. I sort my brass by head stamp.
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Re: Difference between 5.56 and .223 ?
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223 wylde. supposed to be accurate with both. It is. I built a 223 wylde and it is awesome tack driver
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Re: Difference between 5.56 and .223 ?
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the external case dimensions are identical internal may be smaller in 5.56 as the case may be thicker
5.56 specifies a higher pressure , longer throat and often harder primers as most 5.56 guns have a floating firing pin
223rem will fire safely in 5.56x45 chambers how ever light for caliber bullets more common in 223 may not perform as well. 223 rem may also be loaded with softer primers no gun user should chamber a round in anything but a safe direction to fire but in particular with the floating firing pin , the pin will strike and leave a mark on the primer should the firing pin be caught on debris in the firing pin channel it could cause a round to fire. or you could have a bad trigger in a Rem and it could fire , just never chamber a round in an unsafe direction.
some reloading manuals like Hornady 10th edition do distinguish between 223rem and 5.56x45nato
223 wylde is an in-between chamber throat rated for the higher pressure of 5.56x45nato
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