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Re: Poacher sentenced [Re: Spade] #7017488
10/14/20 05:53 PM
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Does he have a "go fundme page"? Asking for a friend.

Re: Poacher sentenced [Re: Spade] #7017497
10/14/20 06:04 PM
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Sentence looks good to me, hope folks understand he is a criminal and not a sportsman or hunter.

Re: Poacher sentenced [Re: Spade] #7017499
10/14/20 06:05 PM
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We're the wolves actually wolves or did they have mixed DNA. Because he pled out i guess we'll never know.

Re: Poacher sentenced [Re: Spade] #7017554
10/14/20 07:13 PM
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Update on this case from the 7 and 4 news, a little more info:

CHIPPEWA COUNTY, Mich., (WPBN/WGTU) -- A Chippewa County man accused of poaching numerous animals, including 18 gray wolves, has lost his hunting privileges for life after a poaching investigation.

Kurt Johnston Duncan, 56 of Pickford, pleaded guilty to seven poaching crimes in September.

On Tuesday, he was sentenced to the following:

Pay $36,240 total
Lifetime revocation of all hunting and trapping privileges in Michigan; including that he may not assist anyone else in any hunting or trapping activities. With this privilege revoked, he will not be allowed to hunt in 48 states that are members of the Interstate Wildlife Violator Compact.
90 days of jail time; 30 of which will be held in aside should he violate probation.
18-24 months probation.
Forfeiture of all items and evidence seized by the DNR during the execution of search warrants, including, firearms and snares.
According to the Michigan Department of Natural Resources, Duncan committed numerous wildlife crimes of various species, including wolves, bald eagles, deer, turkey and bobcat within an 18 month time period.

Re: Poacher sentenced [Re: Spade] #7017555
10/14/20 07:14 PM
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You guys don't get it it is just another thing the antis get to use against us. And trust me they will. A law is a law don't like it vote to change it don't support a crook or they will say we are all that way.

Re: Poacher sentenced [Re: Spade] #7017560
10/14/20 07:18 PM
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what does killing animals have to do with being a crook?

im guessing he made money off them. money for wildlife is what the heads of wildlife departments really hate. unless it is them getting it.


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Re: Poacher sentenced [Re: KYtrapper2005] #7017562
10/14/20 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by KYtrapper2005
Eagles are national birds he should have been sent to federal prison

Eagles are just buzzards in tuxedos. Beautiful birds with really nasty feeding habits.


GUK.....it's the sound they make when they hit the end of the cable
Re: Poacher sentenced [Re: Spade] #7017563
10/14/20 07:20 PM
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king of england hanged poachers. all game belonged to the king. somehow we have returned to that philosophy


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Poacher sentenced [Re: Spade] #7017588
10/14/20 07:51 PM
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^^ I completely agree with Danny on this issue. Good posts Mr. Clifton!

Re: Poacher sentenced [Re: Spade] #7017600
10/14/20 08:07 PM
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Doesn't breaking the law make you a crook? Or are we at a point where we pick and choose what laws pertain to that?

Re: Poacher sentenced [Re: Spade] #7017784
10/15/20 03:53 AM
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A crook is someone who steals.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Poacher sentenced [Re: Spade] #7017785
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If you are forced to go to south central LA are you going to be armed? That is against the law. Will you be a “crook”?


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Poacher sentenced [Re: Spade] #7017810
10/15/20 05:31 AM
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He most likely didn't pay for a license to take bobcat, deer and turkeys so yes, he is a crook. He stole those animals from us, the legal hunters and trappers who wait most of a year to harvest them legally. Plus he stole the pleasure of many by killing the eagles and wolves that many people enjoy seeing.

Re: Poacher sentenced [Re: danny clifton] #7017816
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
A crook is someone who steals.


I agree, tend to think of a "crook" as someone who fleeces others.

Re: Poacher sentenced [Re: ~ADC~] #7017899
10/15/20 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
He should be moving to those other two states. It'll ruin his life as he knows it where he's at now. Learn his lesson, pay his debt, and start a new in a new location.

I agree


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Re: Poacher sentenced [Re: 330-Trapper] #7017908
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Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
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He should be moving to those other two states. It'll ruin his life as he knows it where he's at now. Learn his lesson, pay his debt, and start a new in a new location.

I agree




No telling how many years he went without being caught. Being legal obviously wasn't important to him to begin with I would think it would be less so after the convection. Probably just teach him to be more cautious and less cocky. Few people ever really change. Moving would be smart.

Re: Poacher sentenced [Re: beachcomber13] #7017910
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Originally Posted by beachcomber13
He most likely didn't pay for a license to take bobcat, deer and turkeys so yes, he is a crook. He stole those animals from us, the legal hunters and trappers who wait most of a year to harvest them legally. Plus he stole the pleasure of many by killing the eagles and wolves that many people enjoy seeing.

Ask a rancher in SD what kind of a pleasure Bald Eagles are.

Re: Poacher sentenced [Re: beachcomber13] #7017916
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Originally Posted by beachcomber13
He most likely didn't pay for a license to take bobcat, deer and turkeys so yes, he is a crook. He stole those animals from us, the legal hunters and trappers who wait most of a year to harvest them legally. Plus he stole the pleasure of many by killing the eagles and wolves that many people enjoy seeing.


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Re: Poacher sentenced [Re: Spade] #7017952
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There are poachers most everywhere.Poaching,like some other criminal behaviours tends to run in families in this area.Infact there is one family name here that is connected to poachers.Anyone with that last name whether a poacher or not is automatically assumed by the public to be a poacher just because of their last name,lol.Probably the same elsewhere.
The ones I know of would rarely ever be in danger of being caught.Many are already known to the authorities but difficult,or near impossible to catch because of the way they operate.
There is a big difference in my opinion between those career poachers and someone who inadvertently breaks some obscure law that they may not have even been aware of.

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Re: Poacher sentenced [Re: Spade] #7017956
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It amazes me how easily people are brainwashed. I am surprised what lengths humans will go to in order to be part of a herd

Chickens will all gang up on another chicken peck it to death and eat it.

Humans are a lot like that

Last edited by danny clifton; 10/15/20 09:21 AM.

Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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