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Chest wader waste band #7017763
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Do you use & tighten that belt that comes with them? I attended a trapping safety demo where they said not to use those belts. Some in the crowd were surprised.

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Re: Chest wader waste band [Re: AJE] #7017770
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I have had dozens and dozens pairs of waders over the years and none ever came with a belt, but I do use one of my own. I make sure they are easy to remove if I have to.
I have had to back stroke more than once while wearing waders and that belt kept my waders from filling up with water.
Tom

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If my feet aren't wet,I must not be trapping.
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Re: Chest wader waste band [Re: AJE] #7017780
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Never had one come with them and never used one. Does the belt go on the outside I'm guessing? Are there loops on your waders? Stay safe out there whatever you use

Re: Chest wader waste band [Re: AJE] #7017856
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I am surprised also, that someone giving a safety demo would say not to use a belt with waders.


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That sounds like poor advice to me. I've got wet with and without a belt. I'll stick with the belt.


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Re: Chest wader waste band [Re: AJE] #7017866
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Originally Posted by AJE
Do you use & tighten that belt that comes with them? I attended a trapping safety demo where they said not to use those belts. Some in the crowd were surprised.

What was his reason for not using the belt?

Re: Chest wader waste band [Re: Jags] #7017875
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Originally Posted by Jags
Originally Posted by AJE
Do you use & tighten that belt that comes with them? I attended a trapping safety demo where they said not to use those belts. Some in the crowd were surprised.

What was his reason for not using the belt?

they come with loops but not a Belt


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Re: Chest wader waste band [Re: AJE] #7017884
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Originally Posted by AJE
Do you use & tighten that belt that comes with them? I attended a trapping safety demo where they said not to use those belts. Some in the crowd were surprised.


Whoever was giving the demo never was in a situation where the waders were their lifeline. A lot of people unfamiliar with the way waders function think if they fill up with water they'll sink you, or they'll slip out of them if the need arises to swim to shore or get out of a river. I know I thought the same thing, trust me it's not going to happen. Use the belt, and stay calm, the waders actually help you float making it easier to get to shore than if you didn't have them on.

Also, if it's cold out side leave the waders on until you get some where there is heat. The waders will help you warm up. Take them off and your totally exposed to the elements while soaking wet.

From someone with lots of experience.

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Some years ago I slipped on the steep edge of a bank and went under without a belt. Amazing how fast those boots filled up. I was lucky. Never again use waders without a belt!

Re: Chest wader waste band [Re: AJE] #7017970
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Went head first out of the canoe last year in neck deep water, first time for everything. I had a belt on, not that much water in at first, grabbed the canoe that had not flipped and got to shore, turned top of waders inside out, left the bottoms alone, got back to truck asap. I also had a life jacket tight around the top of waders and that helped keep water out. I was using a plastic snap strap belt from some place, a back pack maybe?


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In many of my beaver and muskrat demos,I advocated the use of a belt on waders. I still think I was right and always use one.
Tom


If my feet aren't wet,I must not be trapping.
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I've always promoted the belt. My understanding is.......The trapped air helps with flotation. I don't have a personal experience to back this up.

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I have watched the demo stating that belts should not be put on. I am not sure myself how to respond. I personally wear neoprene waders and they hug my body very tight. (also due to extra lbs. as well). I wear a belt and went in neck deep last year, crawled out and hardly had any water on my clothes or in the waders. I wear my waders while canoe trapping always and wear my life vest also. I went through the ice and I think getting a safe and good set of ice pics is the top of my list this year.

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Re: Chest wader waste ba [Re: AJE] #7018340
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Use to use a military web belt.

What reason was given for not wearing a waist belt?

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The reason given at the demo is that the belt may trap air in the bottom/foot portion of the waders creating buoyancy, this will cause the wader bottoms to float and therefore submerge the wearers head.
I'm NOT taking any position on this, just relaying the reason given at the demo.

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If a person with waders on falls from a boat, and his waders fill with water, it would be a problem even with a life preserver.

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Iíve been a dry suit diver for many years and know if you have any air trapped in bottom your feet will certainly rise if you donít have your feet planted on bottom. It definitely makes righting yourself back vertical extremely hard.

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I've also been told not to try and take them off , when in over head deep. A lot of drownings have been found with 1 leg in and 1 leg out. That's most likely the other option..

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Thanks for the feedback. I don't claim to know the answer on this issue. Bryce, I am glad you chimed in. I was standing next to you at that demo in Marshfield. I can't remember the exact reasoning, but the instructor had a lot of experience, including haven fallen through multiple times. Is it possible the instructor was mistaken, maybe. I remember several of us gasping in surprise as he explained this. I wish I could better remember his reasoning. I suspect his reasoning was that of what Quartermastersir says.

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I'm with you AJE...I like to put all the odds in my favor....and don't want to find out the hard way....I appreciate the comments .

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