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Re: Is the fur industry over? [Re: lumberjack391] #7020726
10/18/20 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by lumberjack391
Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Biden couldn't slap himself on the arse let alone put anything together.
I think fur will always be fashionable the same as beef and pork will be fashionable. People will consume it as long as someone else takes the dirty work out of it.


I dont think you can compare fur to food or call meat "fashionable".


Gaga would disagree.

Re: Is the fur industry over? [Re: Ave] #7020728
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Turn off the heat and put on a fur coat. Save the planet from global warming, or climate change what ever you want to call it.

Re: Is the fur industry over? [Re: Ave] #7020751
10/18/20 07:08 PM
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Stick a fork in it the fur market is done. I've been trapping for 50 years I have seen the market go up and go down but nothing like today Sadly it is over.


Re: Is the fur industry over? [Re: coyote44] #7020757
10/18/20 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by coyote44
Stick a fork in it the fur market is done. I've been trapping for 50 years I have seen the market go up and go down but nothing like today Sadly it is over.

Nope^^
Its cheap, but it aint over.


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Re: Is the fur industry over? [Re: Ave] #7020768
10/18/20 07:25 PM
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Everyone said the fur market was over in the late 90's. We are in unique times though.
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Re: Is the fur industry over? [Re: Ave] #7020807
10/18/20 08:03 PM
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One or two more stimulus packages followed with more QE will put the DXY(dollar market) at levels as low or below the last lows.

It will be a good time to be in commodities.


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: Is the fur industry over? [Re: Ave] #7020809
10/18/20 08:08 PM
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Fur market is not over, if you have the lifespan for a few more years in the game.


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Re: Is the fur industry over? [Re: Ave] #7020816
10/18/20 08:14 PM
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Looks like a lot of people dont know much about the fur industry historically.
It has been far worse off than now several times over the last 500 years.
It always goes up and down,and will go up again.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Is the fur industry over? [Re: Starcraft_Dart] #7020830
10/18/20 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Starcraft_Dart
China will be looking for fur pretty soon. If Biden gets elected and works out an agreement it should bring some of it back.


Yeah, he’ll make Hunter his fur czar.

Re: Is the fur industry over? [Re: Ave] #7020833
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Boco, you need to keep in mind when we get $1.00 for something you get $1.30 or thereabouts.

This is the worst I've seen it and I wouldn't be afraid to say it's the worst it's been in 150 years.


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: Is the fur industry over? [Re: Boco] #7020835
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Originally Posted by Boco
Looks like a lot of people dont know much about the fur industry historically.
It has been far worse off than now several times over the last 500 years.
It always goes up and down,and will go up again.


Correct me if I am wrong but Ranch fur and warm, durable synthetics were never available like they are now. I see that as the difference.

Re: Is the fur industry over? [Re: Ave] #7020846
10/18/20 08:39 PM
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You are wrong-silk killed the beaver hat market 180 years ago.
Also nothing manmade is as warm as real fur.

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Re: Is the fur industry over? [Re: coyote44] #7020848
10/18/20 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by coyote44
Stick a fork in it the fur market is done. I've been trapping for 50 years I have seen the market go up and go down but nothing like today Sadly it is over.

Are your traps for sale? What ya got?


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Re: Is the fur industry over? [Re: teepee2] #7020859
10/18/20 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by teepee2
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I think it will be around, but it will be different. Remember a place called Montgomery Ward, and Kmart, and many other businesses that refused to change, and they thought the world needed them a whole lot more than they needed the world. Things are a changing and if the fur industry doesn't change it will fall by the way side. This is just my opinion of course.

And just what change do you propose?


I really have no idea what it will take. Maybe it is finishing (getting your fur tanned) all your fur and selling it directly to the finale customer, or a large warehouse that sells directly to the customer. At this point I think GFW has the best business model going. Hopefully he can find a way to keep moving fur. I guess I am just saying we need to start thinking outside the box. All I know is the current business model (auction house) doesn't seem to be working. I hope I am not getting anyone all fired up, I am just trying to get people to think a little different.

Re: Is the fur industry over? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #7020863
10/18/20 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
Originally Posted by Boco
Looks like a lot of people dont know much about the fur industry historically.
It has been far worse off than now several times over the last 500 years.
It always goes up and down,and will go up again.


Correct me if I am wrong but Ranch fur and warm, durable synthetics were never available like they are now. I see that as the difference.


You are not wrong. Many things are way different than the first 400 years of the fur industry. The last 100 years are the only relevant years. Many things are way different from when I started trapping. There is so much more competition for luxury spending today than just 50 years ago.


Who is John Galt?
Re: Is the fur industry over? [Re: lee steinmeyer] #7020945
10/18/20 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by lee steinmeyer
Yallz want to be prophets again! What do ya win for having the right answer? I'm gonna trap every year I have left on this earth, and the market has always been a rollercoaster. ALWAYS! Will trap for what I can still sell and for other uses. PERIOD!


Thank you Lee!

Dale


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Re: Is the fur industry over? [Re: Dale Verts] #7020955
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Originally Posted by Dale Verts
Originally Posted by lee steinmeyer
Yallz want to be prophets again! What do ya win for having the right answer? I'm gonna trap every year I have left on this earth, and the market has always been a rollercoaster. ALWAYS! Will trap for what I can still sell and for other uses. PERIOD!


Thank you Lee!

Dale


Hi Dale. Long time no see! I heard you were running a resturant down there in them hills! Hope you are doing great. I'll see you one of these days again, I hope. Take care, bud!


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Re: Is the fur industry over? [Re: Boco] #7020995
10/19/20 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Looks like a lot of people dont know much about the fur industry historically.
It has been far worse off than now several times over the last 500 years.
It always goes up and down,and will go up again.


I have to agree with Boco. Ups and downs. Doesn’t matter what you are involved in things change but still have value. I said 15 years ago kids started school in a one room school house in western Kansas in the 1800’s and will eventually start in a one room school house in the 2000’s. Just watching a satellite TV or computer for classes instead of a teacher. Find the new market when the old one fades-away


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Re: Is the fur industry over? [Re: Ave] #7021012
10/19/20 12:19 AM
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Agreed Pawnee.
If things more than 100 years old are not relevant anymore then Your constitution is irrelevant too.
Thats the trouble with people nowadays,they dont consider how relevant the historical record really is to what we are today and how things unfold in a predetermined way,to a certain extent,based on what went before.
History is a foundation on which everything else is built on.
You disavow the foundation you are on shaky ground to say the least.
That is why the anarchists who want to destroy the current paradigm attack the foundation first-wipe out the history-destroy the foundation and everything crumbles.

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Re: Is the fur industry over? [Re: Ave] #7021014
10/19/20 12:22 AM
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We have had so much change in our society the last 2-3 generations we don't even realize it. Our 9 month school year is totally based on a rural economy and population yet today with 2% of the nation as farmers. We vote in November for most elections as that allowed farmers and families to vote after the harvest was over. Just after WW11 our national corn yield average was 50-60 bushel, today it is almost 3 times that. The average dairy cow was milked in a stall barn, maybe by hand and milked 4,000 lbs. Today they average about 5-6 times that much. In 1927 the county I live in had roughly 50,000 cows with 127 active milk processing plants or factories. Today there are 55,000 cows and we have 3 places in the county that process dairy products. We had hotels and stables about every 15 miles to handle travelers and horses up until after WW1 here. Now that distance is about half the normal 30-40 minute commute for the average worker. When items are fashion statements instead of utilitarian in usage we should anticipate the the wide and wild swings. just look at the leather industry as well as fur.
If we indeed do see a huge swing to at home work that will change the garment industry tremendously over the next years and decades.

Bryce

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