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Is the fur industry over? #7020358
10/18/20 10:45 AM
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Hey guys, I hear a lot of talk on this subject. I got my check from fha yesterday, and I’m really wondering if this is end of the industry as we know it. I know there’s a lot of variables to it, but in what’s your opinion? Will the market ever come back?


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Re: Is the fur industry over? [Re: Ave] #7020359
10/18/20 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Ave
Will the market ever come back?


I freaking hope so.

Last edited by MySide 🦝; 10/18/20 12:31 PM.

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Re: Is the fur industry over? [Re: Ave] #7020360
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Gonna take awhile, but it will improve. To what level may be the question.

Re: Is the fur industry over? [Re: Ave] #7020378
10/18/20 11:12 AM
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As long as ranch fur is over produced at times the market will be up and down but will be here for ever .

Re: Is the fur industry over? [Re: Ave] #7020382
10/18/20 11:17 AM
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It may not be in our life times but I believe a time will come when fur will be in such great demand the concern for the well being of fur bearing species will exist once again.

Re: Is the fur industry over? [Re: Crit-R-Dun] #7020388
10/18/20 11:21 AM
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Re: Is the fur industry over? [Re: walleyed] #7020391
10/18/20 11:25 AM
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[quote=walleyed]


I loath drugs and I don't drink at all, I find it turns people into What have you obviously been drinking?

Re: Is the fur industry over? [Re: Ave] #7020395
10/18/20 11:29 AM
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If it survives it will be in a different form than it used to be. Prices will stay low until we deal with China in some way.

Re: Is the fur industry over? [Re: Ave] #7020398
10/18/20 11:32 AM
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Not going to happen anytime soon unless foreign markets open up relations with china are in the tank right now and that is what brought the market back. Use of synthetics is not helping and then with the anti fur and fashion designers not using it does not help.

Re: Is the fur industry over? [Re: Ave] #7020400
10/18/20 11:37 AM
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Until gas is 6 dollars a gallon and EVERYTHING you buy says Made in China; the market will be tanked


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Re: Is the fur industry over? [Re: Ave] #7020405
10/18/20 11:52 AM
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I believe It's the beginning of the end of the fur Industry.

Last edited by The Beav; 10/18/20 11:53 AM.

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Re: Is the fur industry over? [Re: Ave] #7020412
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With synthetics and ranch fur I do not see the market coming back strong. Even if rats were worth 10 and coons 30 would that be anything to get excited about? Not many guys are going to be full time fur trappers in the future, end of a era.

Re: Is the fur industry over? [Re: The Beav] #7020429
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Define "industry" As to size, scope, impact etc. The fur industry like many has been centralizing and standardizing for decades and that was in response to a growing market. If we are in a declining market the will the centralized fur industry continue to shrink and maybe disappear. If so we will wind up with thousands of small cottage fur businesses worldwide which will survive and maybe thrive but at much different size and scope as to what we have seen the last decades. Most of us will not find a way to participate in a small cottage type industry that is basically a side income for many and not much world impact financially.

I would be one if I did not have a commercial market I would not be sourcing out firms that want a couple furs of each species etc. that is something others can do. It does look like even at my advanced age a small scale ADC trapping component would work better for me with a whole lot fewer aspects of the harvest to invest in and work on.

Bryce

Re: Is the fur industry over? [Re: Ave] #7020453
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I think it will be around, but it will be different. Remember a place called Montgomery Ward, and Kmart, and many other businesses that refused to change, and they thought the world needed them a whole lot more than they needed the world. Things are a changing and if the fur industry doesn't change it will fall by the way side. This is just my opinion of course.

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Originally Posted by bblwi
Define "industry" As to size, scope, impact etc. The fur industry like many has been centralizing and standardizing for decades and that was in response to a growing market. If we are in a declining market the will the centralized fur industry continue to shrink and maybe disappear. If so we will wind up with thousands of small cottage fur businesses worldwide which will survive and maybe thrive but at much different size and scope as to what we have seen the last decades. Most of us will not find a way to participate in a small cottage type industry that is basically a side income for many and not much world impact financially.

I would be one if I did not have a commercial market I would not be sourcing out firms that want a couple furs of each species etc. that is something others can do. It does look like even at my advanced age a small scale ADC trapping component would work better for me with a whole lot fewer aspects of the harvest to invest in and work on.

Bryce



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Re: Is the fur industry over? [Re: Prn] #7020495
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Originally Posted by Prn
I think it will be around, but it will be different. Remember a place called Montgomery Ward, and Kmart, and many other businesses that refused to change, and they thought the world needed them a whole lot more than they needed the world. Things are a changing and if the fur industry doesn't change it will fall by the way side. This is just my opinion of course.

And just what change do you propose?

Re: Is the fur industry over? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #7020496
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[quote=Donnersurvivor Even if rats were worth 10 and coons 30 would that be anything to get excited about?[/quote]
Yes

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I also think the industry will look different but will still be around.

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I also think the industry will look different but will still be around.

Re: Is the fur industry over? [Re: Crit-R-Dun] #7020500
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Originally Posted by Crit-R-Dun
Originally Posted by walleyed

Step away from the bong, and lay off the crack pipe, Crit-R-Bung !!! laugh

Have you been hitting the bottle hard again ?

It's too early in the morning to be under the influence, dude.

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Zing.

I think we'll see improvement starting next year, not much mind you, 2 to 3 years I believe we'll see levels approaching the last mini boom.

Call me crazy.


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