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Biden Gun Tax proposal #7022065
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This is nuts he's proposing these taxes on top of all the other crazy gun laws he wants to do.

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Re: Biden Gun Tax proposal [Re: adam m] #7022092
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How they going to prove you own guns or clips? lol



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NY about 5% cmpliance

CALI , about 5% compliance

ILL 85% of counties went sanctuary status

Mass non compliance with unconstitutional orders and acts


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Re: Biden Gun Tax proposal [Re: adam m] #7022097
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Unjust taxation memes!

Re: Biden Gun Tax proposal [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7022099
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
How they going to prove you own guns or clips? lol



They are going to tax clips they only hold 8 rounds. They want to tax magazines that have standard capacity instead of reduced 10 round capacity.

How they will do it is adding them to the NFA registry m.aking them just like silencers, machine guns, spring, abs and, Aow. The $200 is the cost of the tax stamp. Its currently a year wait to get your stamp back. This would create a 10 year back log.

Re: Biden Gun Tax proposal [Re: adam m] #7022102
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One reason this country was founded. Taxation without representation !!!! That bunch gets in they won't represent anything we love !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Biden Gun Tax proposal [Re: adam m] #7022107
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Where and who is this from from? No way Biden releases this before the election. Do I doubt it no, this items legitimacy yes.

Re: Biden Gun Tax proposal [Re: adam m] #7022112
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If it weren't for losing all mine in a boating accident I would have had to sell my house just to pay my gun taxes.


I have nothing clever to put here.





Re: Biden Gun Tax proposal [Re: adam m] #7022114
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" The NFA was originally enacted in 1934. Similar to the current NFA, the original Act imposed a tax on the making and transfer of firearms defined by the Act, as well as a special (occupational) tax on persons and entities engaged in the business of importing, manufacturing, and dealing in NFA firearms. The law also required the registration of all NFA firearms with the Secretary of the Treasury. Firearms subject to the 1934 Act included shotguns and rifles having barrels less than 18 inches in length, certain firearms described as “any other weapons,” machine guns, and firearm mufflers and silencers.

While the NFA was enacted by Congress as an exercise of its authority to tax, the NFA had an underlying purpose unrelated to revenue collection. As the legislative history of the law discloses, its underlying purpose was to curtail, if not prohibit, transactions in NFA firearms. Congress found these firearms to pose a significant crime problem because of their frequent use in crime, particularly the gangland crimes of that era such as the St. Valentine’s Day Massacre. The $200 making and transfer taxes on most NFA firearms were considered quite severe and adequate to carry out Congress’ purpose to discourage or eliminate transactions in these firearms. The $200 tax has not changed since 1934.

As structured in 1934, the NFA imposed a duty on persons transferring NFA firearms, as well as mere possessors of unregistered firearms, to register them with the Secretary of the Treasury. If the possessor of an unregistered firearm applied to register the firearm as required by the NFA, the Treasury Department could supply information to State authorities about the registrant’s possession of the firearm. State authorities could then use the information to prosecute the person whose possession violated State laws. For these reasons, the Supreme Court in 1968 held in the Haynes case that a person prosecuted for possessing an unregistered NFA firearm had a valid defense to the prosecution — the registration requirement imposed on the possessor of an unregistered firearm violated the possessor’s privilege from self-incrimination under the Fifth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. The Haynes decision made the 1934 Act virtually unenforceable.
Title II of the Gun Control Act (GCA) of 1968

Title II amended the NFA to cure the constitutional flaw pointed out in Haynes. First, the requirement for possessors of unregistered firearms to register was removed. Indeed, under the amended law, there is no mechanism for a possessor to register an unregistered NFA firearm already possessed by the person. Second, a provision was added to the law prohibiting the use of any information from an NFA application or registration as evidence against the person in a criminal proceeding with respect to a violation of law occurring prior to or concurrently with the filing of the application or registration. In 1971, the Supreme Court reexamined the NFA in the Freed case and found that the 1968 amendments cured the constitutional defect in the original NFA.

Title II also amended the NFA definitions of “firearm” by adding “destructive devices” and expanding the definition of “machine gun.”


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Re: Biden Gun Tax proposal [Re: Bear Tracker] #7022115
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Originally Posted by Bear Tracker
Where and who is this from from? No way Biden releases this before the election. Do I doubt it no, this items legitimacy yes.
numerous articles and sources are saying this. Here's a couple
https://www.lawofficer.com/bidens-g...n-in-taxes-on-firearms-they-already-own/

https://www.nraila.org/articles/202...ur-second-amendment-rights-into-oblivion

Re: Biden Gun Tax proposal [Re: adam m] #7022124
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I don't believe those figures because Biden/Harris will move to ban semi-automatics and high capacity magazines. That's their silent agenda among other things.

If Biden wins the presidency, after he's sworn in, the left will say, "OK Joe, we'll take it from here."


BREAKING NEWS! The people who said Trump would destroy America are destroying America.
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Originally Posted by Trapper7
I don't believe those figures because Biden/Harris will move to ban semi-automatics and high capacity magazines. That's their silent agenda among other things.

If Biden wins the presidency, after he's sworn in, the left will say, "OK Joe, we'll take it from here."


You're right on the pushing Biden to the wayside.
The gun options will be both. Per his website he will implement gun buy back or register under NFA.


https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/
"Regulate possession of existing assault weapons under the National Firearms Act. Currently, the National Firearms Act requires individuals possessing machine-guns, silencers, and short-barreled rifles to undergo a background check and register those weapons with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF). Due to these requirements, such weapons are rarely used in crimes. As president, Biden will pursue legislation to regulate possession of existing assault weapons under the National Firearms Act. Buy back the assault weapons and high-capacity magazines already in our communities. Biden will also institute a program to buy back weapons of war currently on our streets. This will give individuals who now possess assault weapons or high-capacity magazines two options: sell the weapons to the government, or register them under the National Firearms Act."

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Where is the bill your referring to this stuff goes on every time there is an election. Did Clinton get your guns, did Obama get your guns?

Re: Biden Gun Tax proposal [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7022156
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
How they going to prove you own guns or clips? lol

They cant if you never use them ,Not gonna work for me


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Originally Posted by danvee
Where is the bill your referring to this stuff goes on every time there is an election. Did Clinton get your guns, did Obama get your guns?

Dont be a fool ,They said and more than once they are coming for our guns


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Originally Posted by danvee
Where is the bill your referring to this stuff goes on every time there is an election. Did Clinton get your guns, did Obama get your guns?


Because the right has successfully blocked what the left is on record saying they want to do we aren't to give credit to what they say they will do if given the chance?

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BTW, Clinton did enact the assault weapon ban. Only the right's sunset provision is why it never became permanent.

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Danvee, would defend the rapist dead at his feet that was shot by the police while arguing that the cop used excessive force.
Who cares that the rapist was shot with his drawers down.

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Originally Posted by danvee
Where is the bill your referring to this stuff goes on every time there is an election. Did Clinton get your guns, did Obama get your guns?



It's by far the first time a candidate has a list for gun safety like Biden dose on his web sight. Ir one would not side step questions about gun control but openly supporting restrictions.

When have you seen a kid (mimor)obviously being chased and attacked by adult convicted felons with plenty of video evidence defend himself and be put on trial for murder. But the felons dont get charged with assault.

The world has changed dont blow it off.

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