Re: Is the fur industry over?
[Re: Ave]
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10/20/20 08:46 AM
10/20/20 08:46 AM
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Fur will shine again. But who knows when. Maybe it'll be after the zombie apocalypse, at the rate things are going.
Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
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Re: Is the fur industry over?
[Re: walleye101]
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10/20/20 10:01 AM
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Dirt
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I don't think you all understand. No shops of luxury items are open in Europe and Asia. Millions of garments that were made for last season are still there. The auction houses are full of unsold furs as well as every speculator and fur buyer has a stock pile.
LLL Yet, as a number of people mentioned Groenwold is still moving ( buying and selling) product at very low prices, and some are applauding his business model. While it is encouraging that some fur is still moving, it makes you wonder if this will be the final nail in the auction house and competative marketing of fur. His business model relies on not for profit suppliers (TJ103). He has those and he can count on them. Won't help you.
Who is John Galt?
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Re: Is the fur industry over?
[Re: Ave]
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10/20/20 12:27 PM
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After I had stated I would not be trapping Gary told me in Sept. I should " go back to my first love" which meant just go trap for fun. I immediately thought to myself "I wish I could". It was 1978 and a coon was worth more than my dad made all day working a job. If we figured in all things that same coon with inflation, tariffs, that coon should be worth a couple hundred bucks. My first love may be the love to trap but the draw I liken to a gold rush. I have trapped through two of them. Afraid I may never see another one. LLL
Isaiah 51:6 But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.
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Re: Is the fur industry over?
[Re: Ave]
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10/20/20 02:22 PM
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Buck (Zandra)
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If there's one thing I've learned about this game since I set my first No.1 Victor in 1975,the market is like the weather,wait a bit and it changes.I saw the best of it in the latter '70's and early '80's,I saw a coyote market that wanted "white bellies" ,around 80 or '81,in February here in the U.P.,and paid a $75 average.Less than 10 years later it was hard to find a buyer.I remember when it looked like the European Union was going to shut down the industry to appease the animal rights activist,fur was in the mainstream media news constantly and they trashed us on a daily basis.Peta was big,Hollywood celebrities had a cause,and it certainly looked bleak.I remember shipping beaver to FHA and getting a $13 average,then shipped beaver caught under the ice in Jan.And Feb. and got a $10 average.Then to fast forward,around 2014(?),rats brought around $14.A few years earlier I trapped a few beaver along my coyote line for old times sake and was shocked when I received $65 for the blankets,around that same time I got $60+ for my better Michigan coyotes.A market is what it is,for the short term maybe they are somewhat predictable,but in the long term no way.The market is going to change again,no doubt.This isn't the first time the.market.looked like it was down for the count.But it always got back up.Trappers have to get.involved in promotion.of wild fur,such as lobbying and treating it.like the.industry that it is and get off.the "sport trapping"kick.We have to do a better job of protecting the industry and.not let the.media and the anti kick it around like they've been doing for the last 40 years.
Buck(formely known as Zandra)
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Re: Is the fur industry over?
[Re: Ave]
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10/20/20 08:11 PM
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Hobbie, are you replacing pcr? lol
Bryce, I sent 76 coon last year. Twos were the smallest, and I hadn't planned to finish any twos, butI did! I had a meat market so that's why the twos got skinned. To date of those 76 coon, I have sold a total of one, a three select AB. I sold all my coon the last five years, but not this year. Only fours and fives select AB's will get to go north this year, and if things sound worse before season, they may all go in the ditch! I'm not gonna catch a one on purpose!
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Re: Is the fur industry over?
[Re: Ave]
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10/20/20 09:30 PM
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How many fur booms can one expect. Let's see I been trapping for 41 years and I have seen 2. Heck I figure we get one every 20 some years.
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Re: Is the fur industry over?
[Re: Ave]
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10/20/20 09:36 PM
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Ive been doing this for 50 years.Big difference between a fur "BOOM",,,and decent fur prices.Fur "BOOM" coming soon,,,probly not too soon,,but I think we will see decent fur prices coming within the next few years.Cheer up !!!
the wheels of the gods turn very slowly
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Re: Is the fur industry over?
[Re: 1crazytrapper]
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10/20/20 10:27 PM
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Marty B
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How many fur booms can one expect. Theres been 3 in the last 150 years.
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Re: Is the fur industry over?
[Re: Ave]
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10/20/20 10:28 PM
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Posts: 45,512 james bay frontierOnt.
Boco
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There is fairweather trappers and there is real trappers. Fairweather trappers come out of the woodwork due to greed,real trappers keep plugging away during booms,busts and the vast majority of the time when prices are "fair"
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Is the fur industry over?
[Re: Boco]
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10/20/20 10:46 PM
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Marty B
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There is fairweather trappers and there is real trappers. Fairweather trappers come out of the woodwork due to greed,real trappers keep plugging away during booms,busts and the vast majority of the time when prices are "fair" As Colonel Potter would say: "Horse Hockey " Why would someone who consciously chooses to produce only when its profitable not be the true definition Of a real trapper? Your definitions seem skewed 180°
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