Re: snare guys?
[Re: trapperroscoe]
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10/21/20 01:05 PM
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Snip the existing stop off and crimp on an amberg BAD ferrule rated at 285lb
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Re: snare guys?
[Re: trapperroscoe]
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10/21/20 11:11 PM
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Release ferrules have a special tool that is needed to install them properly.Been using them for years on cable restraints I sell. Tom
If my feet aren't wet,I must not be trapping. Tom Olson MTA life member#100,also WTA life member
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Re: snare guys?
[Re: trapperroscoe]
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10/21/20 11:30 PM
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Snareshop release ferrules require a specific tool to install them.Amberg release ferrules also requires a special tool to install them. I have used both these over the years. Tom
If my feet aren't wet,I must not be trapping. Tom Olson MTA life member#100,also WTA life member
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Re: snare guys?
[Re: trapperroscoe]
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10/22/20 06:53 AM
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From testing I have seen done, the release ferrules are very inconsistent. If you stand a bunch of the release ferrules up on end you can often see that the holes are not centered. Any time anything is inconsistent it can and will affect the outcome of the release. If I can see it with my eyes, its off a fair amount. The special tool to put the release ferrules on is a pair of pliers with a hole in them, like a mini ferrule crimper. The different companies have different size releases so the crimper does not work for anyone but there ferrule. I am sure if you were to measure the "special tool" you would find that they are as non consistent as the release ferrules. Which would also change the out come. The cable will vary in diameter also. J and S hooks are much more consistent. Anytime you change to a different brand lock it can often change the release of the BAD. Although it is a great idea, there are a lot of variables involved that most people don't think about or care about. Their main concern is that it is a legal snare. I would think Rally would be up to speed on what you need to be compliant in MN.
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Re: snare guys?
[Re: trapperroscoe]
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10/22/20 07:25 AM
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As sayed before. The differance of cable size Chinese to GOOD Korean cable ,yes there is junk korean cable on the market.Will change the poundage of a BAD no mater which one you use. All BADS poundage changes with different locks. Also how the snare is made will change the poundage of a BAD. There is NO way to say at what poundage a BAD will release.Unless you test your own snares. Then is your testing done the same as your states lab ? Does your state EVER have a lab ?
Do i use a BAD. Yes when I may snare ADC around a Cow or Moose. But not on my Fur line. Deer ? The deer stop will work most of the time. Nothing is 100%. A neck cought deer will not release a BAD that will hold a Coyote.
South Jersey Trapping and Snaring School January 19-20-21 2024 NEWT -----------------OVER---------------- www.snareone.com
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Re: snare guys?
[Re: trapperroscoe]
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10/22/20 08:21 AM
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Newt, Rally visited me a couple of weeks ago,so I have that Good Korean cable. Its so nice working with good cable. Years ago I ended up with some Chinese cable,can't even remember where I got it---what a nightmare.It had more twists and turns than a chorus line of dancers. Tom
If my feet aren't wet,I must not be trapping. Tom Olson MTA life member#100,also WTA life member
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Re: snare guys?
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10/22/20 08:39 AM
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Set your snares In entanglement and you won't have to worry about the BAD or the type of lock.
Never trust crush on BADs get your snares set up with J hook type BADs.
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Re: snare guys?
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10/22/20 12:32 PM
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Never trust crush on BADs get your snares set up with J hook type BADs.[/quote]
You need someone who knows how to put them on Beav.
South Jersey Trapping and Snaring School January 19-20-21 2024 NEWT -----------------OVER---------------- www.snareone.com
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Re: snare guys?
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10/22/20 02:31 PM
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Well I guess that was my problem. All my CRs now have J hook BADs on them. No more walking up to a coyote and have It run away while your standing there.
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Re: snare guys?
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10/22/20 05:53 PM
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Gary,I have been making cable restraints since they became law in Wisconsin.Parts of Ontario,Canada did not allow snaring.The Ontario Ministry of Natrural resources had me build 40 dozen cable restraints for their testing. The results ended in cable restraints be legalized for use in Ontario. Since I started making cable restraints,I have used the break away ferrules--and not once have I had a customer complaint of the breakaway ferrules not working properly. So I do not hesitate to use them on cable restraints or snares that require a break away device. Here again ,whatever works for you--go with it. If we agreed on everything,think how boring life would be. Tom
If my feet aren't wet,I must not be trapping. Tom Olson MTA life member#100,also WTA life member
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Re: snare guys?
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10/22/20 06:07 PM
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Tom were you building those CRs out of 1X19X3/32 ?
Well not all CR builders can say that. My trapping partner and I lost 12 coyotes last year to BADs not doing their job. I asked why I had all those failures. I was told just crush them down some more or use a little lock tite.
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Re: snare guys?
[Re: trapperroscoe]
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10/22/20 06:20 PM
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Gary, I use 7x7x3/32 and the release ferrules I use are made for that size cable. Tom
If my feet aren't wet,I must not be trapping. Tom Olson MTA life member#100,also WTA life member
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