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When did Remington rifles decline in quality? #7023735
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'Tis sad, if true: I've read a number of posts that Remington rifles have declined in quality in recent years. But I'm having trouble tracking down what years they're talking about.

I own two Remington bolt-action rifles made twenty years ago (1999 and 2000). One is a first- or second-run .300 RUM LSS that has a trigger job and the barrel was cryo'ed. The other is a .22-250, blued heavy barrel, laminated stock. I'm thinking of selling the RUM. Would year of manufacture be a plus or minus if I try to sell it? I have no proof of date of manufacture, just going from my memory. And the info that the .300 RUM was released in 1999.

If looking for a used rifle, what years of Remington should I consider, and what years should I avoid?

Gunsmiths, your advice is especially welcome.

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Re: When did Remington rifles decline in quality? [Re: James] #7023754
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Not sure when the decline started, but it really went in the dumper when "The Freedom Group" bought the product line. Same with Marlin firearms.


There is hope for the Marlin line though, as it was bought by Sturm Ruger. smile




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Re: When did Remington rifles decline in quality? [Re: James] #7023759
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Prior to 1972 and you MIGHT find a good piece


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Re: When did Remington rifles decline in quality? [Re: James] #7023765
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I think most folks are complaining about there heavy production rifles that they made to keep up with ruger americans, savage axis, etc. I’m not sure what people expect out of a $300 rifle scope combo? Remington still makes some fine custom rifles along with some other models such as the sendaro.

Re: When did Remington rifles decline in quality? [Re: James] #7023769
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James-go to the Westley Richards website.They have some nice used guns for sale.


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Re: When did Remington rifles decline in quality? [Re: James] #7023772
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Re: When did Remington rifles decline in quality? [Re: James] #7023880
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Remington 700 Is still the "go-to" action for action for target shooting unless you go with an aftermarket action so I question the quality went down statements.

I can't speak to the cheaper line, 770?

Re: When did Remington rifles decline in quality? [Re: James] #7023906
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You can write Remington and they will tell you the mfg date. There is a barrel code just forward of the receiver that will tell you when the barrel was made and it will be close to the rifle mfg date probably within a year or so. Many think the barrel code is the rifle mfg date but Remington told me that is not so.

Re: When did Remington rifles decline in quality? [Re: James] #7023917
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You can look most gun manufacturer dates up off the serial number of the gun. I have looked up both Winchester and Browning shotguns.


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Re: When did Remington rifles decline in quality? [Re: James] #7023923
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I deer hunted with a few gun smiths that worked at the "arms". The company policy changed for the worst in the 80's each gun was no longer checked by a gunsmith. Parts were stamped out and quality suffered.

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Call Whitedog gunsmithing he worked for Remington and did their warranty work. He would have the info.

Re: When did Remington rifles decline in quality? [Re: James] #7023950
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If y’all are referring to that 770 that’s about $300 with a scope, then yeah, way downhill. We had to sight one in for a guy. Thank God it was close to being on target because after 2 shots I was done. Gun is not balanced at all and kicks like a 10ga with 3.5 turkey loads. We told the owner sell it and spend a little more money on something nicer.

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I bought a new Model 700 in 7mm Mag two years ago and I'm completely satisfied with it. Synthetic stock and black matt finish on the barrel. It's a shooter.

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Many many years ago. In more than 30 years guiding big game hunters every season I have seen more Remingtons fail in the field than all others combined. Couldnt give me one. Usually its the extractor, but the triggers can fail too.


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Bought a 700 SPS in .270 in 2018 was the last Remington I will ever buy. Fitted it with a Vortex HSLR 6-24x50, couldn't hit paper at 50 yards. First thing I do is switch the scope, problem persists. Then I buy a new base for the scope rings, problem persists.

Take to gun smith, he looks it over. Turns out the holes tapped in the top of the rifle are about 15 thousands of an inch off. Which doesn't sound like much to the average Joe, like me. But he did the math and that .015 of an inch difference turned out to be like 20+ inches at 100 yards. Which is significant.

Sent in to Remington for warranty work. They send it right back with a letter that says, 'While we recognize the problem and see the .015 inch difference in the holes tapped for the base, we regret to inform you that it is inside of our factory tolerances and we can't help you.'

Took it to the gun shop I bought it from, sold it back and bought a Bergara.

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Buying a high dollar rifle? Selling the common man rifles? Are you preparing for the gun confiscations coming with Biden?

Re: When did Remington rifles decline in quality? [Re: yukon254] #7024061
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Originally Posted by yukon254
Many many years ago. In more than 30 years guiding big game hunters every season I have seen more Remingtons fail in the field than all others combined. Couldnt give me one. Usually its the extractor, but the triggers can fail too.


what did you see that failed the least?


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High dollar rifle versus common man's rifle... lol there's a $200 difference.

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Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
Originally Posted by yukon254
Many many years ago. In more than 30 years guiding big game hunters every season I have seen more Remingtons fail in the field than all others combined. Couldnt give me one. Usually its the extractor, but the triggers can fail too.


what did you see that failed the least?



Winchesters and Rugers. Never seen one not work, even when it drops down to -50.


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Originally Posted by yukon254
Many many years ago. In more than 30 years guiding big game hunters every season I have seen more Remingtons fail in the field than all others combined. Couldnt give me one. Usually its the extractor, but the triggers can fail too.


I can believe that. Remington extractors are a spring and spring steel tends to break in extreme cold.

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