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Re: Cowardice in the pulpit! [Re: warrior] #7027185
10/25/20 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Blaine County


Sure. If it's members can't support it. That's not the responsibility of the entire community.


Yet, mom and pop farmer or homeowner gets an exemption in almost every state of the union in similar circumstance.


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Re: Cowardice in the pulpit! [Re: warrior] #7027192
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Originally Posted by warrior
Originally Posted by Blaine County


Sure. If it's members can't support it. That's not the responsibility of the entire community.


Yet, mom and pop farmer or homeowner gets an exemption in almost every state of the union in similar circumstance.


Write your congressman and complain about farmers and/or the lie that everyone should own a home (and get tax breaks to do it). I don't necessarily disagree with you on those issues. But they are different than the church issue.

Do you think a mosque should be tax exempt?

Re: Cowardice in the pulpit! [Re: warrior] #7027197
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Do you think a mosque should be tax exempt?


Absolutely!

But I think you ask a loaded question. If by mosque you mean a terrorism promoting organization then by all means shut it down and prosecute. If peaceful worship of the moon god then they have every right to do so.

I would say the exact same for Westboro Baptist as well.

We can disagree yet still defend each others rights.


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Re: Cowardice in the pulpit! [Re: warrior] #7027201
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Originally Posted by warrior
Do you think a mosque should be tax exempt?


Absolutely!

But I think you ask a loaded question. If by mosque you mean a terrorism promoting organization then by all means shut it down and prosecute. If peaceful worship of the moon god then they have every right to do so.

I would say the exact same for Westboro Baptist as well.

We can disagree yet still defend each others rights.

You do understand that Muslims worship the same God as Christians and Jews right?

Re: Cowardice in the pulpit! [Re: warrior] #7027202
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They do not. Factual whatever others may choose to believe.


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Originally Posted by warrior
Do you think a mosque should be tax exempt?


Absolutely!

But I think you ask a loaded question. If by mosque you mean a terrorism promoting organization then by all means shut it down and prosecute. If peaceful worship of the moon god then they have every right to do so.

I would say the exact same for Westboro Baptist as well.

We can disagree yet still defend each others rights.


Good for you.....the Muslims should rest easy now.

Even with folks like you policing the messages of faith, I'm not interested in subsidizing any church with my tax dollars.

Re: Cowardice in the pulpit! [Re: Pike River] #7027205
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Originally Posted by Pike River

You do understand that Muslims worship the same God as Christians and Jews right?


You do understand that you are repeating globalist lies spread though a shill media right?

Re: Cowardice in the pulpit! [Re: warrior] #7027207
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How is it subsidizing when the discussion is actually just who you will or will not steal from?


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Originally Posted by warrior
They do not. Factual whatever others may choose to believe.


They in fact do. That should make the tax break easier for you to swallow.

Re: Cowardice in the pulpit! [Re: warrior] #7027210
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Originally Posted by warrior
How is it subsidizing when the discussion is actually just who you will or will not steal from?


Do I really need to explain how my business and me individually pays more taxes when others do not pay taxes?

Re: Cowardice in the pulpit! [Re: warrior] #7027211
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In my life I have heard ministers say things in church and do things in their private life I disagreed with. My parents taught me to think for myself. Whether a minister spoke for or against a political candidate would have no influence on how I voted. I suspect that Danny and Blaine County had parents similar to mine.

Re: Cowardice in the pulpit! [Re: warrior] #7027222
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Originally Posted by warrior
Originally Posted by Bob
The church has no place telling anyone how to vote. Separation of church and state and all.


The pastor has every right in how to instruct his flock in what is acceptable according to the word of God. It is his primary mission.

That's how I see it.


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Re: Cowardice in the pulpit! [Re: warrior] #7027224
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I am a believer in Jesus. I do not attend an organized denominational " church". We meet weekly in homes, eat, fellowship study and pray. I think all believers should vote Biblical values and if your believes are serious to you, you don't need someone to tell you how to vote. "Church's" surrender much to the government for tax exemptions and reduced liability (incorporation). The Church is believers not a building. Be the Church, don't go to a "Church". If your a believer act like it and vote accordingly. I quit the organized "Church" because the Lack of Biblical charity is widespread in the "Church" and entertainment is more important than the desire for a more and deeper learning about God's plan and desires for our lives. I would encourage all believers to study why we do things, tradition or biblical truth. What did the Church of the New Testament do? Read Acts. With no building or paid staff you sure free up funds to meet needs and if the "Church" has no money or assets there is nothing to fight over (in our group each family sets aside their offering in a "storehouse" to meet needs). I may have been a little preachy and I'm not a Preacher. This is just where I'm at and don't mind sharing if it would help someone else.

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I don't think you should be told who to vote for at church. Mainly because it's always a choice between two imperfect individuals.
I know people who won't vote because they can't stand either canidate and I understand their position.


Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
Re: Cowardice in the pulpit! [Re: farmnhunt] #7027260
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Originally Posted by farmnhunt
I am a believer in Jesus. I do not attend an organized denominational " church". We meet weekly in homes, eat, fellowship study and pray. I think all believers should vote Biblical values and if your believes are serious to you, you don't need someone to tell you how to vote. "Church's" surrender much to the government for tax exemptions and reduced liability (incorporation). The Church is believers not a building. Be the Church, don't go to a "Church". If your a believer act like it and vote accordingly. I quit the organized "Church" because the Lack of Biblical charity is widespread in the "Church" and entertainment is more important than the desire for a more and deeper learning about God's plan and desires for our lives. I would encourage all believers to study why we do things, tradition or biblical truth. What did the Church of the New Testament do? Read Acts. With no building or paid staff you sure free up funds to meet needs and if the "Church" has no money or assets there is nothing to fight over (in our group each family sets aside their offering in a "storehouse" to meet needs). I may have been a little preachy and I'm not a Preacher. This is just where I'm at and don't mind sharing if it would help someone else.


I respect this. Thank you for sharing it.

Re: Cowardice in the pulpit! [Re: warrior] #7027261
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Not told exactly. But I see no problem laying out each party and candidate issue by issue by name and and position and what scripture says on each topic.

The fear is that any comment on any issue or name will draw the ire of government.


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The bible, which is preached by the pastor, should direct a believer how to vote. Weigh the candidates platform with biblical truth. In the case of two candidates who have both served in government roles, compare their policies to biblical truth.


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Re: Cowardice in the pulpit! [Re: warrior] #7027266
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Keep searching guys I did until I found a pastor and a congregation with fortitude. We have had armed ushers for almost 3 years now and that is just the tip of the ice berg.


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Re: Cowardice in the pulpit! [Re: warrior] #7027284
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Black churches don't seem to have any problems with their preferred candidates giving speeches during services.

Re: Cowardice in the pulpit! [Re: Pike River] #7027291
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Originally Posted by Pike River
Originally Posted by warrior
Do you think a mosque should be tax exempt?


Absolutely!

But I think you ask a loaded question. If by mosque you mean a terrorism promoting organization then by all means shut it down and prosecute. If peaceful worship of the moon god then they have every right to do so.

I would say the exact same for Westboro Baptist as well.

We can disagree yet still defend each others rights.

You do understand that Muslims worship the same God as Christians and Jews right?



Are you serious or joking ???

Not even close ! You must be listening to the Pope or similar nonsense.

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