I think I've claimed part of my tithes maybe twice. Usually I donate cash.

Why are taxpayers forced to pay for stadiums businesses movies schools that are terrible or kids don't go to etc...?

As a Student of History... I believe that the Church and State malarkey that is shouted by the left and others is misconstrued from the original meaning... At the writing of the Constitution many of the forward thinkers in its formulation were Quakers. Philadelphia was a Quaker town, formed mostly by Quakers. These Quakers were in Pennsylvania and no longer in England, because they had been persecuted over their religion in England. My 10th Great Grandmother, Elizabeth Hooten, was the first female Quaker minister in England and was imprisoned in the Tower of London, because she would not disavowal her Quaker Faith.

I have my Christian faith and hold it dearly... although I am not a minister in any faith, I've given the sermon in Southern Baptist Church, a Southern Black Church and a Mormon Church. I find no difference in the the people or their faith, but I do find many difficulties in some of their doctrines.

As I now stand I have my faith in my heart, my Bible in one hand and my .45 cal in the other... trying to be prepared for any situation that may appear.

Garry-

Well the solution is quite simple and makes the most since. End and outlaw property taxes!! I paied taxes on my money when I made it, I paid sales tax when I bought my land yet some how I am still forced to rent it from the government in the form of taxes every year. And any time they want more money for schools, police, firefighters, they just charge me more.

Yet I homeschool and pay all my own expenses, I'm my own security and fire department. Let's face it for those of us in the country response times suck and all they will do is put out the hot spots left after the house has burnt to the ground, or pick up the bodies after a home invasion.


Churches have no backbone any more. I'm not sure if it's the tax issue but lean more towards they dont want to offend anyone. Again that will hit there pocketbooks. So instead they preach deluded sermons fill the plates and send everyone home smiling and happy.

It's a disservice to the church and community and why I have not constantly gone to church for several years. We try new ones out but eventually something happens from a church split to sermons that not blibical and lead people off the path.

It's sad but was written about in 2000 year old book.

Our pastor preaches the bible. Pretty sure while concealed carrying while do so. Any way if your pastor preaches the bible then you should know how to vote. And it is not in favor of those who support full term abortions.

It was set up that way as a form of separation. We don’t control you, kinda thing.
It is a good thing to keep government out of religion.
The church is not living off of taxpayer money, thats uninformed talk.

But I’m sure you already had an agenda before you typed this.

I don't know which church is "the church" but its no matter. They do not pay taxes and so to say they are not at least partially tax payer funded is disingenuous.

P.S. muslims DO worship the same god. Just like mormans.

Mormons make that claim but they are in fact an occultic religion. Their own writings deny the divinity of Christ and propose a universe contrary to that of the bible.

I'm sure the issue of churches and property taxes varies State by State. In Washington State there is a 5 acre exemption on which a church doesn't have to pay property taxes. Anything over that, or non church related is taxed at the regular rate. Seems fair to me.

The church has traditionally enjoyed a tax exemption just as many charities do for the good they bring to society. It's no more complicated than that.

I suppose at any level, the inappropriate stance would be to consider what the Church gets out of _________ (fill in the blank) when all glory is to be given to God.

Interesting how those who are irreligious counsel the faithful on who and what God is.
That's not anywhere in the canonical Book revealed by God for us.

Blessings,
Mark

if you want a good view of something, you need to be outside the picture

Jews, Muslims and Christians have the same God of the Old Testament. It's the Jesus/Mohammed part where they split ways. Regardless, the God is still the same. Admittedly, I was raised Catholic but I am pretty sure I am right on this....and you know much more about these things than me.

But not over the hill out of view without specks.

You know we love you but the Inspired text of 1 Corinthians 1:18 is wonderfully clear in the Greek language (more exact than English) with the verb appolumenous assigned a participle attached to verb:foolish, and noun:men in the middle/passive voice (action happens to the noun), meaning;

To those who are perishing the cross is foolishness.


Blessings,
Mark

It's a worthy stab. Sticky comes in when we assume all Jews, Muslims, and Christians are unified theologies. They aren't. Are all Americans the same? Europeans? Oklahomans?

Thank goodness, no. Not all Oklahomans are the same.

For example, the God that flooded the earth is the same God, right? Basically Jews, Muslims and Christians all agree on the high points of the Old Testament to some degree, including, the God unless I am missing something.

Sure, they have differences (and if this raised Catholic would have paid more attention, maybe I would know more about it--probably not) but each believes in Moses and his God. Not unified theologies, but they started from the same basic premise, right?

Mohammed was a pagan raised in a polytheistic culture the chief of his gods was the moon god worshipped at the q'abba that Muslims are required to make pilgrimage to. His initial goal was to obliterate the others gods in favor of his preferred god. It wasn't until he came into contact with the jews of Medina that the Hebrew God was brought into his theology.

how about it, Jim...de-fund Planned Parenthood, based on your argument?

Time running out on the clock.
Teams line up.
KS is in at QB.
10-64. 10-64. Hut. hut.
The hike.
Look. Look!
KS has a man wide open down field looking to score!
Deep down field.
Wide open.
KS with the Haaaiiillll Maaarrryyyyyyyyy.

Way short. Way short.
Never got there.
Never had a chance.

Twain Atheists lose another one.
They just can't find the right combination on the field!
But they always suit up.

Your funny