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Weaver scope image focus #7027375
10/25/20 07:00 PM
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I need some advice folks,
I have been fiddling around with my savage .17 HMR trying to adjust the (cheap) weaver scope that came with the gun. For some reason, I cannot get the image sharp through the scope no.matter how much I try. The cross hairs are sharp as any other scope, but the ring lines on a paper target are not clear at 20 yds and low magnification.
I have a bushnell scope (unmounted) that seems to be much clearer. Here is where you all will probably laugh at me...if I put on my reading glasses, the image improves a lot, but still not what I would expect from a scope.
I only need the glasses to read fine print...still have 20/20 according to the eye doc.
Is it my eyes, or the quality of the optics?
I ain't getting any younger, but my eyes seem as sharp as ever except for very small print... Maybe I'm getting old LOL

Last edited by slydogx; 10/25/20 11:51 PM. Reason: I am a dummy. Not a vortex

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Re: Vortex scope image focus [Re: slydogx] #7027436
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I had the same problem with a leupold scope. I could see the hits on target with a Tasco scope but not the leupold, the range was 40 yards. I called leupold they said it was the parallax setting. The scope I had was set for a parallax 100-150 yards is what the rep said. I changed out for a nikon .22 rimfire scope. Problem solved for me. I gave they leupold to a hunting buddy.

Re: Vortex scope image focus [Re: slydogx] #7027446
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turn the magnification up to max , then try turning the focus ring at the back of the scope all the way in then moving it out a half turn at a time , aiming at the sky or plane white wall , eyes closed you open your eyes is the retical perfectly in focus ? you decide as soon as you open your eyes

keep going till it gets better then worse then start working back in 1/4 turn till worse again then fine tune adjust it the most crisp clean retical

now try looking at targets at a few distances on low magnification . middle and high . is there any distance that is better some scopes are fixed focus for a distance of 100 yards

are the lenses clean or is there a smudge or finger print on the lense at the muzzle end of the scope

if your other scope is clear for you at all the same distances the vortex is not clear send your scope in for repair with Vortex


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Re: Vortex scope image focus [Re: slydogx] #7027479
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Green county, definitely no smudges. Reticle is crystal clear, just image is blurred. This is a fairly cheap scope, so no parallax adjustment either.
I have a feeling it is the scope


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Re: Vortex scope image focus [Re: slydogx] #7027488
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Send it in, they will fix or replace it free.

Re: Vortex scope image focus [Re: slydogx] #7027505
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Give them a call, their costumer service has always been helpful for me. If the scope is bad they will replace it free


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Re: Vortex scope image focus [Re: slydogx] #7027506
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Thanks all, sending it back. I am now 99% it is the scope...I now have the bushnell dialled in where the image is fairly crisp through most of the magnification range at only around 20' in the basement... without glasses on LOL


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Re: Vortex scope image focus [Re: slydogx] #7027559
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You’ve played with the focus adjustment ring on the eye end of the scope right?


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Re: Vortex scope image focus [Re: slydogx] #7027566
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With vortexes guarantee you don’t even have to send it in. Take it to an authorized dealer and hand it to them, tell them the problem, and they hand you a new one. If they don’t make that particular scope anymore they hand you the newest equivalent.


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Re: Vortex scope image focus [Re: Bob] #7027570
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Originally Posted by Bob
With vortexes guarantee you don’t even have to send it in. Take it to an authorized dealer and hand it to them, tell them the problem, and they hand you a new one. If they don’t make that particular scope anymore they hand you the newest equivalent.

Haven’t heard that one before, not calling you a liar but votex has always told me I had to send it back.


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Re: Vortex scope image focus [Re: slydogx] #7027589
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Yes, tried focus ring. It doesn't seem to be functional actually


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Re: Vortex scope image focus [Re: slydogx] #7027706
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Well, among the many reasons to call me a dummy, here is a new one. Scope is a Weaver, not a Vortex. This is why you shouldn't cruise the Cabela's website for new optics while complaining online about the old optics you have LOL... my apologies to all the fine people at Vortex, I am sure your scopes are top notch LOL.
Anyhow, I just swapped in the Bushnell and I am much happier now. Hope to hit the range in a week or so to see how I did mounting optics for the first time ever.
Edited the title of my post because I felt bad grin


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Re: Vortex scope image focus [Re: slydogx] #7027750
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Originally Posted by slydogx
I need some advice folks,
I have been fiddling around with my savage .17 HMR trying to adjust the (cheap) weaver scope that came with the gun. For some reason, I cannot get the image sharp through the scope no.matter how much I try. The cross hairs are sharp as any other scope, but the ring lines on a paper target are not clear at 20 yds and low magnification.
I have a bushnell scope (unmounted) that seems to be much clearer. Here is where you all will probably laugh at me...if I put on my reading glasses, the image improves a lot, but still not what I would expect from a scope.
I only need the glasses to read fine print...still have 20/20 according to the eye doc.
Is it my eyes, or the quality of the optics?
I ain't getting any younger, but my eyes seem as sharp as ever except for very small print... Maybe I'm getting old LOL

Never knew Weaver scopes were "cheap". Always thought they were a good product with good customer service

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Re: Vortex scope image focus [Re: slydogx] #7027796
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They are the standard scope that Savage throws in with their rifles. There are probably nice weaver scopes but the ones they toss on their rifles are pretty low end. I was reading online reviews last night and the general opinions were "great rifle, replace the scope"


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Re: Vortex scope image focus [Re: slydogx] #7028023
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought adjusting the eye piece was strictly for getting the cross hair them self into focus. And with a fixed parallax scope most were focused for 100 yards for a clear image.
I have a mixed bag of leopould vx3's, nikon and old and new redfield same with weaver but my last 2 scopes have been cheapo centerpoints 4x12x40 and a 4x16x44 both with adjustable objectives and one has target turrents. One sits on my savage 17hmr and the other on my rem 222 that I night hunt with. My eyes are getting to the point where I like the adjustable focus especially with the 17hmr and squirrel hunting I can zoom them in and tweak the focus to were you can tell how many ticks are on there ears if you want. I've had them 5 or 6 year and even though their cheap they have been rock solid.
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Re: Vortex scope image focus [Re: slydogx] #7028027
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I have a 3X9 Redfield I bought at a garage sale that isn't real clear when looking through it. But, I only paid $10 for it and thought maybe it could be fixed. I'll try what GCP suggests.


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Re: Vortex scope image focus [Re: slydogx] #7028049
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weaver scopes used to be good , then slipped , they still had some good stuff but it wasn't the junk that several firearms manufacturers are putting on their package guns.

there is a reason some of package rifles are only 25-30 dollars more than the base rifle they are putting pure junk on many of them.

had 2 Rem 783 package guns at sight in last year , kid scoped himself a real bleeder on his first shot you could not see through that POS scope unless you were about 1.5 inches from it . that scope needed to come off and get smashed with a hammer before someone else tried to use it.


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Originally Posted by Trapper7
I have a 3X9 Redfield I bought at a garage sale that isn't real clear when looking through it. But, I only paid $10 for it and thought maybe it could be fixed. I'll try what GCP suggests.



try it and cleaning both lenses well


however some scopes get moisture in them and then they stay not clear the moisture dries inside the lens much the way the inside of your windshield gets cloudy from condensation and drying repeatedly
this may be the case you may be able to send it back to Redfield for repair and still have a deal on a scope.


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Re: Vortex scope image focus [Re: illinideer] #7028064
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Originally Posted by illinideer
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought adjusting the eye piece was strictly for getting the cross hair them self into focus. And with a fixed parallax scope most were focused for 100 yards for a clear image.
I have a mixed bag of leopould vx3's, nikon and old and new redfield same with weaver but my last 2 scopes have been cheapo centerpoints 4x12x40 and a 4x16x44 both with adjustable objectives and one has target turrents. One sits on my savage 17hmr and the other on my rem 222 that I night hunt with. My eyes are getting to the point where I like the adjustable focus especially with the 17hmr and squirrel hunting I can zoom them in and tweak the focus to were you can tell how many ticks are on there ears if you want. I've had them 5 or 6 year and even though their cheap they have been rock solid.
J


Exactly. Eye piece adjusts cross hairs and image is adjusted with parallax. If you have a fixed parallax scope then the image should appear crisp at the distance the scope was set for. AKA 100 yards for most scope and 50 yards for many muzzle loader/rimfire/shotgun/crossbow scopes.

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Re: Vortex scope image focus [Re: slydogx] #7028089
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the eyepiece is to adjust the retical however when it is way out of adjustment it can make everything blurry


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