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Re: Ammo shortage? [Re: Posco] #7028307
10/26/20 04:26 PM
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One way to control gun is control the ammo, one way to control ammo is control primers. JMO


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Re: Ammo shortage? [Re: Posco] #7028311
10/26/20 04:32 PM
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I am hearing the same thing over and over. "every time we get ammo in its sold out as soon as we put it on the shelves"

Ammo makers are not going to spend the money to increase production capability as it would be a money loser. Ramp up production, plenty for sale, fear is gone, and sales will plummet. They are going to produce what they can without buying more equipment.


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Re: Ammo shortage? [Re: Posco] #7028317
10/26/20 04:36 PM
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Not sure about the “control primers” theory, haven’t heard that one or understand what its based on, if anything. However, I do have a buddy whose family owns a range/shop and talks to suppliers daily. The shortage started with manufacturers working with skeleton crews and single shifts vs three fully staffed shifts. It continues because they can’t catch up because of a lack of lead. As we may recall, the previous administration forced the lead smelting facilities in the US out of business, so it all comes from overseas now. I’m sure there are other factors too.

Re: Ammo shortage? [Re: Getting There] #7028387
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Originally Posted by Getting There
One way to control gun is control the ammo, one way to control ammo is control primers. JMO

No primers doesn't explain no .22 shells. smile


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Re: Ammo shortage? [Re: Posco] #7028388
10/26/20 06:02 PM
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went to fleet farms on sat. there was no ammo other than some 28 ga. 12 20 shot shells very few slugs for 12 ga 20ga no 410 16 no buck shot at all the only shot gun shell left were the heavy steel , bismith was 50.00 per box in 12 or 20 not much for hand gun rounds to be found hardly no black powder supplys either

Re: Ammo shortage? [Re: Getting There] #7028393
10/26/20 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Getting There
One way to control gun is control the ammo, one way to control ammo is control primers. JMO

Yep


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Re: Ammo shortage? [Re: Posco] #7028444
10/26/20 06:53 PM
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You guys should be used to this by now. For my entire life, every time the presidential election comes around, there’s an ammo “shortage”. If the democrat is elected it means six more months of ammo shortage. If the republican wins it means early end to the ammo shortage.


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Re: Ammo shortage? [Re: Posco] #7028490
10/26/20 07:22 PM
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You can find about any ammo if you are willing to pay the price. 2 boxes of 9mm 115 gr FMJ go for $100 on an auction. Plus they were going to pay sales tax and 18% convenience fee. I never figured who that was a convenience for, but its not the buyer. Ammo does not go bad and comes in case lots. Its just not the time to buy them.


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Re: Ammo shortage? [Re: Posco] #7028504
10/26/20 07:29 PM
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My neighbor just came into possession of 6,000 small pistol primers. He was kind enough to give me 1,000 for helping him build a 6" step on the front of his house. After that, he went to our local Scheels store and they had some primers in stock there. Of course, he bought them all, even though the limit was 2-100 ct boxes. Apparently, the limit memo was not shared with the checkout clerks. Anyway, I will not be running out of ammo anytime soon. smile


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Re: Ammo shortage? [Re: Posco] #7028645
10/26/20 08:20 PM
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I was at the rifle range this week end. There was two guys with there boys. They were shooting 22 LR AR's used up a lot of ammo.
I have heard a lot of guy's have AR's that shoot 22LR. They were just plunking have fun. If that is the case I can see a hole lot of 22 LR going down range now days, much more than a few years ago. JMO


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Re: Ammo shortage? [Re: Posco] #7028663
10/26/20 08:26 PM
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Buying anything I like to shoot 1 box at a time has never really worked out for me and my goals.

If I only buy 1 box I am testing it out LOL


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Re: Ammo shortage? [Re: Badger23] #7028746
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Originally Posted by Badger23
I've never seen reloading supplies at any wal mart I've been in. You sure you're not looking at muzzleloader powder and primers?

Also a 303 British is a very capable deer rifle. There are a lot of them around just most don't use them anymore. Ammo is a bit pricey and not plentiful. They were very popular after WW2 as surplus military rifles. Canada has a lot of them and from what I understand are more popular up there.



Several western Walmart’s sell reloading supplies.

Re: Ammo shortage? [Re: Trapper7] #7028760
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Originally Posted by Trapper7
Just this morning at the health club a member told me he went to the local fleet farm where he always buys shells for his 06. They were out of 30-06. He thought he was going to have to use his 30-30 this year. But, they were out of that caliber too. I told him he could borrow my 6MM if he wanted. He said he'd prefer to use his own rifle if possible. I would feel the same way.

Anybody know the reason for the shortage????


Several reasons for the shortage. First was panic buying when Covid hit the shores, then five million new gun owners because of Covid and more importantly the riots and defund the police movements. Factor in production is down due to covid staffing shortages and maybe the biggest kicker of all, a shortage of key ingredients because of supply chain problems from China because of covid.'

Hopefully we learn from this and bring back essential manufacturing but I doubt it.

Re: Ammo shortage? [Re: Posco] #7028766
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"Several reasons for the shortage. First was panic buying when Covid hit the shores, then five million new gun owners because of Covid and more importantly the riots and defund the police movements. Factor in production is down due to covid staffing shortages and maybe the biggest kicker of all, a shortage of key ingredients because of supply chain problems from China because of covid.'

Hopefully we learn from this and bring back essential manufacturing but I doubt it."

Nailed it!

Chris


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Re: Ammo shortage? [Re: Posco] #7028823
10/26/20 10:18 PM
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if you wonder , you should read , listen to or watch the reports from people on the ground.

people need to hear what the MSM isn't telling people

how organized , armed and equipped rioters where.

how helpless the police were

how there were no police , fire or ambulances coming if you had an issue.

police cars being burned in front of the officers that had been driving them

how politicians and MSM just made excuses for how the rioters , arsonists and looters were mostly peacful and justified in their actions.while screaming how awful the police are and de-funding the police.

once you have a little shortage it gets people thinking I need to buy before it's out these other people must be on to an idea

then the shortage snow balls

in march it was .355 and .357 self defense bullets were drying up online

in April 9mm handguns , 9mm self defence ammo ARs , pistol caliber carbines

May shotguns , short barrel low cost pump guns

this continued into June

cities burning anything 223 , 308 , lever guns semi auto

the 5 million new gun owners was an estimate in August could be 6 or 7 by now
August saw reloading components anything Small pistol , small rifle , by September even large pistol and large rifle were dried up a few magnum rifle and handgun primers left in stores , nothing online.

October hunting ammo starts to dry up

I watched farm and fleet put out a case of 9mm fmj and in 10 minutes with a 2 box limit it was gone


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Re: Ammo shortage? [Re: Posco] #7028845
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keep looking for 30-06 it has been the most available ammo all year
try smaller stores , bait shops , hardware stores , try every week.


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Re: Ammo shortage? [Re: Posco] #7028864
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??? Not that I’ve noticed.

Sorry couldn’t resist. I started a conservative investment program during the last administration.


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Re: Ammo shortage? [Re: Posco] #7028880
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I roll my own for everything but rimfire. I keep a good stock of all components just for this reason. I am currently building a 300 PRC and bought brass (have everything else) before I even ordered the barrel and head space gauges learned that lesson a long time ago.


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Re: Ammo shortage? [Re: arcticotter] #7029794
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Originally Posted by arcticotter
Originally Posted by Badger23
I've never seen reloading supplies at any wal mart I've been in. You sure you're not looking at muzzleloader powder and primers?

Also a 303 British is a very capable deer rifle. There are a lot of them around just most don't use them anymore. Ammo is a bit pricey and not plentiful. They were very popular after WW2 as surplus military rifles. Canada has a lot of them and from what I understand are more popular up there.



Several western Walmart’s sell reloading supplies.


Several eastern Walmarts sell reloading supplies also.

Re: Ammo shortage? [Re: JTfromWV] #7029907
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Originally Posted by JTfromWV
Originally Posted by arcticotter



Several western Walmart’s sell reloading supplies.


Several eastern Walmarts sell reloading supplies also.


it all depends if they have a sporting goods manager who brings in reloading supplies

the managers get a certain amount of freedom to bring in things from their suppliers , some stores just get the base order

all depends who the sporting-goods manager is or if the store even has one.


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