Re: State Management of Wolves
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10/29/20 08:57 AM
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Duluth Tribune NewsWolves across the Lower 48 states were hunted, trapped and poisoned to near-extinction for centuries after European settlement until they gained federal protection in 1975. By then only about 500 wolves remained in the Lower 48 states, all of them in Northeastern Minnesota. There are now an estimated 6,000 gray wolves (sometimes called eastern or timber wolves) roaming in the Lower 48 states, including about 2,700 in Minnesota, more than 1,000 in Wisconsin and more than 500 in Michigan’s Upper Peninsula. Wolves have been technically listed as “threatened’’ for most of the last 40 years in Minnesota, which has allowed limited, targeted trapping of wolves by the U.S. Department of Agriculture near where pets and livestock have been killed. That program has killed about 200 wolves each year in Minnesota even under their protected status. Wolves have been listed as “endangered’’ in Wisconsin and Michigan and no lethal control has been allowed since 2014. Other stable populations are located in the Rocky Mountain west and Pacific Northwest. Colorado voters next week will decide whether their state should reintroduce wolves to that ecosystem. The proposal would not impact Mexican gray wolves, which are listed separately under the Endangered Species Act. The estimated 12,000 gray wolves in Alaska also are not impacted by the move.
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Re: State Management of Wolves
[Re: Pike River]
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10/29/20 11:48 AM
10/29/20 11:48 AM
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Trapper7
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Duluth Tribune NewsWolves across the Lower 48 states were hunted, trapped and poisoned to near-extinction for centuries after European settlement until they gained federal protection in 1975. By then only about 500 wolves remained in the Lower 48 states, all of them in Northeastern Minnesota. There are now an estimated 6,000 gray wolves (sometimes called eastern or timber wolves) roaming in the Lower 48 states, including about 2,700 in Minnesota, more than 1,000 in Wisconsin and more than 500 in Michigan’s Upper Peninsula. Wolves have been technically listed as “threatened’’ for most of the last 40 years in Minnesota, which has allowed limited, targeted trapping of wolves by the U.S. Department of Agriculture near where pets and livestock have been killed. That program has killed about 200 wolves each year in Minnesota even under their protected status. Wolves have been listed as “endangered’’ in Wisconsin and Michigan and no lethal control has been allowed since 2014. Other stable populations are located in the Rocky Mountain west and Pacific Northwest. Colorado voters next week will decide whether their state should reintroduce wolves to that ecosystem. The proposal would not impact Mexican gray wolves, which are listed separately under the Endangered Species Act. The estimated 12,000 gray wolves in Alaska also are not impacted by the move. The number of wolves in MN (2700) is a bunch of baloney! 20 years ago, I attended a meeting where the DNR estimated there were 3500 wolves in MN. We have had just a couple of seasons where wolves could be shot or trapped up to a certain low number. Otherwise, the wolf has been protected all this time. And now they maintain there are fewer than there were 20 years ago???? Talk about insulting our intelligence!
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Re: State Management of Wolves
[Re: Trapper7]
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10/29/20 12:57 PM
10/29/20 12:57 PM
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Duluth Tribune NewsWolves across the Lower 48 states were hunted, trapped and poisoned to near-extinction for centuries after European settlement until they gained federal protection in 1975. By then only about 500 wolves remained in the Lower 48 states, all of them in Northeastern Minnesota. There are now an estimated 6,000 gray wolves (sometimes called eastern or timber wolves) roaming in the Lower 48 states, including about 2,700 in Minnesota, more than 1,000 in Wisconsin and more than 500 in Michigan’s Upper Peninsula. Wolves have been technically listed as “threatened’’ for most of the last 40 years in Minnesota, which has allowed limited, targeted trapping of wolves by the U.S. Department of Agriculture near where pets and livestock have been killed. That program has killed about 200 wolves each year in Minnesota even under their protected status. Wolves have been listed as “endangered’’ in Wisconsin and Michigan and no lethal control has been allowed since 2014. Other stable populations are located in the Rocky Mountain west and Pacific Northwest. Colorado voters next week will decide whether their state should reintroduce wolves to that ecosystem. The proposal would not impact Mexican gray wolves, which are listed separately under the Endangered Species Act. The estimated 12,000 gray wolves in Alaska also are not impacted by the move. The number of wolves in MN (2700) is a bunch of baloney! 20 years ago, I attended a meeting where the DNR estimated there were 3500 wolves in MN. We have had just a couple of seasons where wolves could be shot or trapped up to a certain low number. Otherwise, the wolf has been protected all this time. And now they maintain there are fewer than there were 20 years ago???? Talk about insulting our intelligence! Maybe your DNR is very loose with the word "about"?
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Re: State Management of Wolves
[Re: Trapper7]
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10/29/20 01:25 PM
10/29/20 01:25 PM
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white17
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Duluth Tribune NewsWolves across the Lower 48 states were hunted, trapped and poisoned to near-extinction for centuries after European settlement until they gained federal protection in 1975. By then only about 500 wolves remained in the Lower 48 states, all of them in Northeastern Minnesota. There are now an estimated 6,000 gray wolves (sometimes called eastern or timber wolves) roaming in the Lower 48 states, including about 2,700 in Minnesota, more than 1,000 in Wisconsin and more than 500 in Michigan’s Upper Peninsula. Wolves have been technically listed as “threatened’’ for most of the last 40 years in Minnesota, which has allowed limited, targeted trapping of wolves by the U.S. Department of Agriculture near where pets and livestock have been killed. That program has killed about 200 wolves each year in Minnesota even under their protected status. Wolves have been listed as “endangered’’ in Wisconsin and Michigan and no lethal control has been allowed since 2014. Other stable populations are located in the Rocky Mountain west and Pacific Northwest. Colorado voters next week will decide whether their state should reintroduce wolves to that ecosystem. The proposal would not impact Mexican gray wolves, which are listed separately under the Endangered Species Act. The estimated 12,000 gray wolves in Alaska also are not impacted by the move. The number of wolves in MN (2700) is a bunch of baloney! 20 years ago, I attended a meeting where the DNR estimated there were 3500 wolves in MN. We have had just a couple of seasons where wolves could be shot or trapped up to a certain low number. Otherwise, the wolf has been protected all this time. And now they maintain there are fewer than there were 20 years ago???? Talk about insulting our intelligence! That averages out to be only about 1 % decline per year. I can believe that especially if the prey base is decreasing.
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Re: State Management of Wolves
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10/29/20 04:42 PM
10/29/20 04:42 PM
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MJM
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"Today, the Department of Interior delisted the gray wolf from the Endangered Species Act. Ranchers across the American West have lost livestock because of ever-growing gray wolf populations with no way to protect their herds from this threat. Additionally, families are defenseless should their pets, or even children, become threatened by a gray wolf attack. Gray wolf populations have exceeded recovery expectations for years, and three Administrations have tried to delist the gray wolf from the Endangered Species Act. President Trump and Secretary Bernhardt finally got it done. Turning gray wolf population management back over to states and tribes will give back local control and inevitably save cattle, sheep, other livestock, and families from the threat of a grey wolf. This is a great win for the West, and I thank the Trump Administration for consistently prioritizing agribusinesses and public safety across America."
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Re: State Management of Wolves
[Re: Trapper7]
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10/29/20 05:18 PM
10/29/20 05:18 PM
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The number of wolves in MN (2700) is a bunch of baloney! 20 years ago, I attended a meeting where the DNR estimated there were 3500 wolves in MN. We have had just a couple of seasons where wolves could be shot or trapped up to a certain low number. Otherwise, the wolf has been protected all this time. And now they maintain there are fewer than there were 20 years ago???? Talk about insulting our intelligence! Exactly! Same here in Wisco. They've constantly lied about the numbers. WI DNR admitted there were over 2K wolves here more than a decade ago. Sign, contact, dog and livestock predation have only gone up since then.
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." -Edmund Burke "We are fast approaching... rule by brute force." -Ayn Rand
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Re: State Management of Wolves
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10/29/20 05:26 PM
10/29/20 05:26 PM
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We recognize that the USFWS’s delisting decision will give immediate rise to questions about whether Minnesota will establish a hunting or trapping season for wolves. However, we want people to understand that wolf management is about far more than whether hunting and trapping wolves is or is not permitted in Minnesota. Our commitment to a healthy and sustainable wolf population in Minnesota is unwavering. We will continue to use the best available science, coordination with our federal and tribal partners, robust public engagement, and careful consideration of all perspectives to inform all of our management decisions, including any future decisions regarding the potential for a wolf season in Minnesota following completion of our plan update.
That could mean different things to different people. To us trappers that sounds like a good management plan that Wil allow us to have a regular and sustainable harvest.
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Re: State Management of Wolves
[Re: 330-Trapper]
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10/29/20 05:26 PM
10/29/20 05:26 PM
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I hear the Feds are finally going to hand management of wolves back over to the states! The Democrap Governor will not allow the DNR to manage them with a hun or trapping No way Stretchin Gretchin is going to allow hunting or trapping of them. And the DNR head is one of her minions.
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Re: State Management of Wolves
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10/30/20 05:43 AM
10/30/20 05:43 AM
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Buck (Zandra)
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Michigan won't see a wolf season.Not all the responsibility for that goes to the current pinhead occupying that chair,the last governor(a true RINO)had a hand in that too.
Last edited by Buck (Zandra); 10/30/20 05:46 AM.
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Re: State Management of Wolves
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10/30/20 06:56 AM
10/30/20 06:56 AM
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walleye101
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We recognize that the USFWS’s delisting decision will give immediate rise to questions about whether Minnesota will establish a hunting or trapping season for wolves. However, we want people to understand that wolf management is about far more than whether hunting and trapping wolves is or is not permitted in Minnesota. Our commitment to a healthy and sustainable wolf population in Minnesota is unwavering. We will continue to use the best available science, coordination with our federal and tribal partners, robust public engagement, and careful consideration of all perspectives to inform all of our management decisions, including any future decisions regarding the potential for a wolf season in Minnesota following completion of our plan update.
You can either use the best available science or public opinion to manage Minnesota's wolf population, but based on their survey results you can't use both.
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