Lost a leg
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11/05/20 07:19 PM
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I am not sure how common it is, but I lost a leg on a breaker for my welder. I lost one last on the wives kiln about a year ago. I never thought of it being a common thing. I thought it was the on/off switch on the welder. It started to run and shut off before I started to weld. I flipped the switch off and back on and it started again. I turned around and it shut off. I ordered a new switch and nothing. After a weeks worth of cussing and hating the idea of buying a new welder, I put a malti metter to the breaker and it has a dead leg.
"Not Really, Not Really" Mark J Monti "MJM you're a jerk."
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Re: Lost a leg
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11/05/20 10:01 PM
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breakers go bad more often than ya would think
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Re: Lost a leg
[Re: MJM]
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11/05/20 10:04 PM
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Yes, it has underground. Going to the shop. Being that it is a single phase welder and 2 pole breaker with no power to one pole. It pretty much has to be the breaker.
Last edited by MJM; 11/05/20 10:14 PM.
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Re: Lost a leg
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11/05/20 10:14 PM
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breakers go bad more often than ya would think especially if the normal load is close to the rating.
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Re: Lost a leg
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11/06/20 10:23 PM
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Am I the only one that was thinking we were about to see how a trapper traps with just one leg. Not after breaking my hand last october.. Figured i should get preparred for the inevitable.
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Re: Lost a leg
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11/06/20 11:03 PM
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Does the underground cable, come from the service pole, or from another building. You can test the voltage on the legs at the other end , of the cable run. I would shut off all double pole breakers , in your shop , while doing this,,including, the main breaker as you can get feedback through 240 volt loads, that might affect the result.. If there is a burned off leg or a failing leg, it will have no, or a strange reading. Hope this helps. I played with this kind of stuff, in my former life old243.
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Re: Lost a leg
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11/06/20 11:08 PM
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I got a new breaker and put it in and still only have power to one leg. I checkethe the two lines coming in and one read 120 and the other 122. So it is the main breaker or the bar. I have to pull the new breaker back out to check the bar and main will check the main then too.
"Not Really, Not Really" Mark J Monti "MJM you're a jerk."
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Re: Lost a leg
[Re: Artrapper16]
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11/06/20 11:11 PM
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Am I the only one that was thinking we were about to see how a trapper traps with just one leg. I know a guy that traps with one arm....he gets it done too. And he has to drink beer out of a long neck bottle ...to reach his lips ,with his good arm.
It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
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Re: Lost a leg
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11/06/20 11:44 PM
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If its the main breaker failing any other circuts on that phase would also not work as well I think the box has 3 breakers in it plus the main. There were no lights and a single 110 outlet when I bought the place. One 20 amp breaker in the box. I put in a couple outlets and some lights and the 220 outlet for the welder adding a couple breakers. All the 110 outlets and light may be on one phase by dumb luck. I have ran about 40 lbs of wire through the welder over 6-7 years so its not a new add on. H20 It is a two pole breaker not two singles. I had 4 grandkids show up just about the time I was testing the main lines coming in and saw they both had 120. I figured it was a good time to stop as have them in the middle of it.
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Re: Lost a leg
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11/07/20 12:38 AM
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The line comes from a box on the pole to a panel in the shop. I am not sure how the house got in here. There is a line that goes from the pole to the house too, and a panel in the house. It will get a new panel if it is the main or the buss bar are bad. I have a new Square D QO panel that will work fine in the shop.
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Re: Lost a leg
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11/07/20 02:21 AM
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cpl years ago I lost partial power at the farm. Checked the breakers,,,,ok. Checked power coming in ,,,, ok. So I thought. If I checked each leg individually I had 120 on each. But when I checked them together I still only had 120. Made me scratch my head. Called the power comp. they brought out some rig looked like a metal detector and found a "Leak" down the hill toward the pole. They had to replace the entire run, but I was good to go.
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Re: Lost a leg
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11/07/20 02:30 AM
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Am I the only one that was thinking we were about to see how a trapper traps with just one leg. I've been trapping 54 years, the last 15 on one leg due to fall at work.
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