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Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps [Re: red mt] #7047140
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Who promotes the 24 check idea that says it all!


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps [Re: red mt] #7047142
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Wisconsin reg's say non-drowning sets must be checked once per day (not 24 hours). With weasel boxes meeting certain criteria excepted.

Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps [Re: red mt] #7047145
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I'm a long way from a long liner but my kids would have us checking 3 times a day if it was beneficial. There definitely isnt any sleeping in going on around here.

Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps [Re: Law Dog] #7047157
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
Who promotes the 24 check idea that says it all!


Hey Jerry, good to see you back.


Eh...wot?

Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps [Re: red mt] #7047158
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I believe the 24 hour check is to appease the unknowing public. After a short time an animal's foot goes numb ,the animal is not in pain, merely restrained. I believe that it was New York that worded their law to allow next day checking, even if it passed the 24 hours. In some areas of New York there is a 48 hour check because of the remoteness and distances travelled. I favor an even longer trap check for animals taken in body gripping traps or under water.

Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps [Re: Fisher Man] #7047167
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Originally Posted by Fisher Man
I believe the 24 hour check is to appease the unknowing public. After a short time an animal's foot goes numb ,the animal is not in pain, merely restrained. I believe that it was New York that worded their law to allow next day checking, even if it passed the 24 hours. In some areas of New York there is a 48 hour check because of the remoteness and distances travelled. I favor an even longer trap check for animals taken in body gripping traps or under water.


Getting pretty sticky. I believe most permissions exclude landowners from liability. Unless you are nuisance trapping by permit most trappers aren’t carrying any insurance. Veterinarians aren’t cheap and neither are lawyers.

If you live in BFE, it’s not a concern.


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Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps [Re: red mt] #7047170
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just because you check traps daily does not mean you will be safe from nosey busy body on lookers, I had a CO contact me about a "hot" set i had in a creek that was on private property but adjacent to a township road. Somebody saw a racoon in the set for a couple days and called the CO. So he went in and dispatched the racoon and snipped off a front toe for verification. he did this for three more days. he'd dispatch one, i'd pick it up later that day, next day the set caught another one, repeat the process. So he finally told me since I've caught at least 5 racoons in that set could i please move it so the busy body would leave him alone.
Since the busy body could not tell one racoon from another, three different racoons in a trap each day, will be interpreted as one for three days.
With the infusion of cityiots buying homes out in the countryside walking, biking, and walking their dogs and such, we've had to make adjustments in where we place our hardware..
MN has a three day "capable" of drowning check law, three day check on body grippers and weasel box sets, and daily on all others.
I think you'll get a better average catch per trap if you check every day, but a higher total catch if you can run every other or every third day check.
I try to check my public stuff daily and my private stuff every other day at the outside, even though technically I'm allowed the three.
stay safe out there.

Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps [Re: red mt] #7047180
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I still do not see the benefits of a daily trap check.


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Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps [Re: red mt] #7047181
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My traps get checked twice a day, lol. There’s always work going on at the places I trap.
If I was retired and could check when I want I wouldn’t mind the 24hr check. As it is now, I have to check before work which starts at 0700, so I’m up at 0430 to run the line. After work I have to reset and run it again to get whatever critters get caught right at daylight. Never caught a canine in an after work check, but catch a few coons and cats. Some of our “winter” days can get up in the mid 80’s and I’ve come across dead coons and cats on those hot days.

Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps [Re: red mt] #7047185
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There is no benefit from a 24hr check LAW.

If folks feel the need too check every 24hr, great! Do it!!

Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps [Re: red mt] #7047188
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So what happen if you guys get sick have break downs or bad weather rolls in all these reasons are deal breakers for a 24 hr. Check and many others imo.


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Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps [Re: red mt] #7047191
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Originally Posted by red mt
I still do not see the benefits of a daily trap check.



It’s a anti tool plain and simple “the death of 1000 cuts”. It seems the ones eating this crap sandwich are trying to sell it as a tasty meal. LOL The anti move is to promote several restriction then hope to get one or two passed into law, making our jobs harder and harder so we lose interest by over regulation. IMO


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Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps [Re: red mt] #7047197
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The idea of running and maintaining 150-200 sets then putting up that catch the same day is a joke when you add daily chores and other responsibilities of daily life.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps [Re: Law Dog] #7047211
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
Originally Posted by red mt
I still do not see the benefits of a daily trap check.



It’s a anti tool plain and simple “the death of 1000 cuts”. It seems the ones eating this crap sandwich are trying to sell it as a tasty meal. LOL The anti move is to promote several restriction then hope to get one or two passed into law, making our jobs harder and harder so we lose interest by over regulation. IMO


I think that was spot on and very well put Jerry glad you stopped by .


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Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps [Re: red mt] #7047215
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I believe checking them when you can get to it will lead to not having them to check a lot quicker than having the wildlife management folks setting a regulation.

But carry on.


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Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps [Re: red mt] #7047225
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The statement that you cant catch another animal if there is an animal already in the trap is only true if you only set one trap.
No one I know only sets one trap.Trappers normally set fur pockets with multiple sets per pocket.

When there is no check time,there is normally a law that states you cannot let an animal spoil in a trap.
You also have the option of checking your traps every day if you want or even 10 times a day if you want.

Last edited by Boco; 11/12/20 12:19 PM.

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Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps [Re: red mt] #7047248
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It all boils down to population of your state, and unsubstantiated perceptions. Reading through the comments, most that have never trapped on a multi day check, don't really understand the ins and outs of it. There is no proof that a critter held in a good trap that treats him well, makes any difference to the well being of that critter, whether it is one day or three. Most opinions have their own bias of how THEY feel the animal feels! If you trap in states that are very rural, you soon learn the benefits of multi day checks over one day checks.

Edit; What Jerry (Law Dog) wrote is spot on, also Boco nailed it! Both were posting while I was!


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Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps [Re: red mt] #7047255
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I believe in a 24 hour check for all non-lethal sets. A lethal set is one involving a killer trap such as most bodygrippers are. Or, a set designed to drown the animal.


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Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps [Re: lee steinmeyer] #7047258
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Originally Posted by lee steinmeyer
It all boils down to population of your state, and unsubstantiated perceptions. Reading through the comments, most that have never trapped on a multi day check, don't really understand the ins and outs of it. There is no proof that a critter held in a good trap that treats him well, makes any difference to the well being of that critter, whether it is one day or three. Most opinions have their own bias of how THEY feel the animal feels! If you trap in states that are very rural, you soon learn the benefits of multi day checks over one day checks.


JMO but the “benefit” difference is related to scent more than anything. Trapping in the wilderness where people aren’t an everyday occurrence would definitely benefit from staying away, the longer the better. The urban critters that eat cat food off the back decks in developments don’t really care if they smell people.


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Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7047261
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
I believe checking them when you can get to it will lead to not having them to check a lot quicker than having the wildlife management folks setting a regulation.

But carry on.


If your on a 24 hour check now what would he next anti step be then, it’s not hard to sum it up. There is a big difference between the East coast and the plains states and hobby VS daylong trappers needs. Nobody said unlimited trap checks but checking all day everyday has no room for fur put up and daily responsibilities.

The antis tried that 24 hour stuff last year our game and fish replied with a 3 day statewide check in the end the 2 day East River and 3 day west River stayed in place, again the Antis introduced the 24 hour idea take that for what it’s worth.


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