.....Or, any other "non-lethal" projectiles to introduce new very young shooters.

For my Thanksgiving AKA Freedom From Government Day turkey shoot, I'd like to load a few very low recoil 20 gauge rounds for my youngest grandkids. I already have a bunch of 7.62x39 rounds loaded with a single buck ball at slingshot velocity.

I know Germany and Japan used wooden projectiles for training during WWII. I'd like to try to adapt that to shotgun. It doesn't have to be wood, but, anything that might fill a hull or shotcup, to provide reasonable accuracy at 25 yards at maybe 300-500 fps.

Any ideas, or experience??

What is the point of the nonmetal bullets supposed to be? If you're not in a safe area to shoot or the person can't be trusted to shoot safely, then no pew-pew.

I thought that's what BB guns were for.

Firearms training ain't training without at least a little bang.

BTW my low velocity single buck ball loads are perfect for squirrels where snoopy neighbors might be in earshot of a more traditional round.

Read the post!!

Now we are both out of the running for the nicest members.

And the question still stands. What is the value of a nonmetal bullets over a metal bullet? If you want a bang without danger of hitting something, get blanks. If you want accuracy practice, get something like iTarget.

Would the projectile actually leave the barrel when loaded to those velocities?

Rubber band gun or that fly swatter pistol.

This is where I usually thank the crew for all their great ideas.

Too bad this bunch has a lot of attitude and no knowledge or understanding, whatsoever.

Absolutely. At least with about 90% reliability. That 10%, though is why I only shoot them from a break action that can be visibly checked after each round.

I was asking an honest question. I started with BB guns, then went to 22's. I don't see the need for fancy "not lethal" loads. Same rules for ALL guns. Doesn't matter what comes out of the barrel.

SniperB, you keep asking questions, but haven't even bothered to read the post. Your answers are right there if you'd care to look.

I got to tell you I'm a little confused by your question as well. Nothing personal.

What exactly are you trying to accomplish? It sounds like you want to bang with reasonable accuracy? But what is the point in the non-metallic bullets?

Ol dad

Airsoft pellets and ONE. OR ONE AND A HALF grains of a very fast pistol powder. Enough fiber wads to bring the shot cup/wad up to the base of the crimp then enough AIRSOFT pellets to fill the shot column for a good solid crimp. Test them by yourself with the scatter gun sand bagged and remote fired with a string on the trigger and at least fifty feet between you and the gun . DONT DO THIS WITH A GUN YOU ARE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH DESTROYING! YOU ARE PLAYING IN THE NO STUPID ZONE!
Don’t test the second shell until the bore is inspected for obstruction ie a wad remaining in the barrel from the first test. CAUTION!!! I HAVE NEVER DONE THIS AND DON’T RECOMMEND OR SUGGEST YOU DO EITHER!!!! Just theorizing how I would proceed with load development CAUTION! DANGER! YOU ARE ENTERING THE NO STUPID ZONE! WATCH Mr. MCulick (sp) video on destroying a Mossburg pump!
And remember a primer by itself develops approximately SIX THOUSAND PSI

These loads are "non-lethal" as a byproduct of their real purpose: Fun and non threatenening for the kids and their not so conservative parents. This is a "turkey shoot". When is the last time you went to a turkey shoot with blanks?

They will have already shot the BB gun, as well as slingshot and Bow and arrow. They will have also shot the low velocity 7.62, which is somewhat comparable to the .22, except reloadable, in this time of ammo shortages..

I am looking, as I said, for a somewhat accurate shotgun projectile.

Well, cmcf, I have done it. Pretty much as you describe, except that I use very short,(1 1/2-2") roll crimp hulls. It is a lot easier, and safer to start with small volume than ask for trouble filling a large volume, and still expecting to push it all out the barrel. This, though, being a target turkey shoot requires a single projectile.

Recoil, or lack thereof for the little ones

PS. Speer made some plastic practice projectiles that used only the primer for propulsion and a plastic case or OEM brass case depending upon cartridge. I had a bunch in .38 and .45. Used to shoot them in the house at a phone book for a “ bullet” trap,lol they were reusable . The.45 projectiles would stop in the bore of my.45LC with the brass case and primer but a half grain of Bullseye would push them on out with about the same penetration in the phone book as the.38 out of the Colt Trooper MKlll
TRex I understand exactly what you’re trying to do. Just remember even a “non lethal “ projectile can be very dangerous at close range.
Heck I remember reading about a guy that got charged with illegally killing a moose while trying to shoo it out of his garden with a pellet gun in Ak. somewhere.

Gotcha!! And have fun with the turkey shoot!!!

Spud gun or paintball gun?