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Re: Tomato variety for northern climate [Re: snowy] #7066386
11/28/20 09:26 PM
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In Montana with low humidity, it will get quite cool at night throughout the summer. That really stunts tomato production. I could grow tomatoes in eastern ND easily, whereas rarely could get ripe tomatoes in western montana.

Re: Tomato variety for northern climate [Re: snowy] #7066398
11/28/20 09:29 PM
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I prefer Jet Star, Supersonic, Celebrity, and Bush Goliath. For Tomatoe paste variety you can't beat Roma

Re: Tomato variety for northern climate [Re: snowy] #7066419
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If you can grow tomaters in Wy at 6500 foot elevation and pick them in May your going to have to heat a greenhouse.

Re: Tomato variety for northern climate [Re: snowy] #7066437
11/28/20 09:46 PM
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I tried one called Siberian , they don't get to big , just a little bit smaller than a tennis ball. They can set fruit at 38 degrees.

Re: Tomato variety for northern climate [Re: snowy] #7066500
11/28/20 10:37 PM
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Speaking of Better Boy and Early Girl, this is what remains of my crop from this year. I had a "garden fresh" tomato on my burger tonight. Heck, I might get one or two to last till Christmas!
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Re: Tomato variety for northern climate [Re: Dean Chapel] #7066512
11/28/20 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Dean Chapel
In Montana with low humidity, it will get quite cool at night throughout the summer. That really stunts tomato production. I could grow tomatoes in eastern ND easily, whereas rarely could get ripe tomatoes in western montana.

Yes this is the problem most years just don't seem to have enough heat to ripen them.

Thanks again for all the suggestions and I have been collecting the varieties and will test some of these out.


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Re: Tomato variety for northern climate [Re: snowy] #7066518
11/28/20 10:55 PM
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You might try growing in a microclimate like on a south facing wall or that with a heat sink like barrels of water that will absorb and hold sun heat through the night.

I contemplated that for trying citrus a zone north of it's preferred.


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Re: Tomato variety for northern climate [Re: snowy] #7066570
11/28/20 11:57 PM
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Cherokee, pineapple, hillbilly, chocolate, roma, brandywine are some of the ones the wife and i had this year. She starts them in the greenhouse or inside to get a start on the growing season. Biggest tip is to starve them of water(gradually) when we are getting close to frost/harvest time. Have had a lot of green tomatoes seasons past which is a bigger problem it seems then which ones grow well. We also hang p cord from a horizontal board to hold them up instead of cages. The bush together well and wrapping then up the string every week or so isnt hard

Re: Tomato variety for northern climate [Re: trapperkeck] #7066727
11/29/20 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by trapperkeck
Speaking of Better Boy and Early Girl, this is what remains of my crop from this year. I had a "garden fresh" tomato on my burger tonight. Heck, I might get one or two to last till Christmas!
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That is amazing to be able to keep them that long. Thanks for sharing your variety.


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Re: Tomato variety for northern climate [Re: snowy] #7066839
11/29/20 10:50 AM
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One variety that I have grown successfully and ripens early is Stupice. It is from Czech Republic and has excellent flavor. You will have to shop for seeds to start.


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Re: Tomato variety for northern climate [Re: snowy] #7066858
11/29/20 11:10 AM
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Re: Tomato variety for northern climate [Re: coonlove] #7066860
11/29/20 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by coonlove
One variety that I have grown successfully and ripens early is Stupice. It is from Czech Republic and has excellent flavor. You will have to shop for seeds to start.


That one came to mind but I haven't had much success with it. But I haven't been to successful with most of the early cold climate varieties. I suspect it mighy be how fast things heat up down here. We can go from last frost to eighties in a matter of hours some years.


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Re: Tomato variety for northern climate [Re: Zim] #7066861
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Originally Posted by Zim
Here in Wisconsin you plant the darn things in early May.
Then they freeze off and you plant them again around Memorial Day.
Then you fret, fertilize, water, and pace back and forth and wonder why
the little green sob's will not get ripe. Then around mid August you wonder
why in God's name did you plant so many? 6 weeks or so and they are going to freeze,
can't hardly give them away and if ya eat another BLT you are gonna bust your belt.

Flash ahead to late November, first seed catalogs arrive, begin planning for next year....


Zim


Glad to know I am not the only one who goes through this. In fact I am thinking about making the garden just a little bigger this year haha.

Re: Tomato variety for northern climate [Re: snowy] #7066863
11/29/20 11:19 AM
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Last spring, I put my tomatoes out and had to cover them with blankets for about 7 of the first 20 days. They were snowed on twice and had lows in the teens a couple of nights. But, it was worth it in the end, I guess.


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Re: Tomato variety for northern climate [Re: snowy] #7066885
11/29/20 11:45 AM
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My dad used to grow lots of tomatoes in western Washington, I remember his favorite were Early Girl.
An important thing to consider when growing tomatoes is night time temperatures. Western Washington has cool to cold night temperatures during the summer with average late July night temps in the mid to low 50's. He always did something to help increase the temperature where he grew his tomatoes such as planting them along the south side of a building, or next to a concrete slab which soaked up heat during the day.
One particular variety that I remember always frustrated him were Beef Steak.


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Re: Tomato variety for northern climate [Re: waggler] #7072294
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I use a lot of tomatoes for salsa, juice, sauces and stewed tomatoes. I plant mostly celebrity which are very adaptable and determinate which means they don't vine much after setting fruit and most fruit ripens at similar times. Celebrity has a lot of disease resistance. I plant Big Beef, better boy and some early girl which are indeterminate and therefore continue to vine and grow after first fruits and produce over a longer period of time. I spray mine every 7-10 days for about two months and I use the black cloth over the rows about 18 inches wide to help keep fungus spores off the plants. I stake all mine to keep fruit off the ground. The indeterminate ones really need staking and some pruning as well.

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Re: Tomato variety for northern climate [Re: snowy] #7072607
12/03/20 10:15 PM
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One I grow might do well in a northern climate. Opalka is a polish paste type, long pointed end dry and meaty with few seeds. In spite of being a paste type it has great tomato flavor. I like them quartered on a chicago style dog.
They aren't my earliest but they one of the first to get ripe, though the first to set always gets blossom end rot no matter what. Other than that they shake it off and will be last or second to last to go, usually killed by frost. The fact they are still going strong in the fall shows they tolerate the brights better and hang through the heat as well.


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Re: Tomato variety for northern climate [Re: snowy] #7072761
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Grew supersweet 100 cherries this year.Ate them for a few months.Hard to get big tomatoes to grow here without greenhouse.

Re: Tomato variety for northern climate [Re: snowy] #7072854
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Re: Tomato variety for northern climate [Re: Zim] #7072877
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Originally Posted by Zim
Here in Wisconsin you plant the darn things in early May.
Then they freeze off and you plant them again around Memorial Day.
Then you fret, fertilize, water, and pace back and forth and wonder why
the little green sob's will not get ripe. Then around mid August you wonder
why in God's name did you plant so many? 6 weeks or so and they are going to freeze,
can't hardly give them away and if ya eat another BLT you are gonna bust your belt.

Flash ahead to late November, first seed catalogs arrive, begin planning for next year....


Zim

Yup. That's the way of it.


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