Re: God Bless Texas
[Re: warrior]
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12/08/20 03:45 PM
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Well, didn't people complain to the Supreme Court that Pennsylvania was not following its written election laws and John Roberts said he didn't want to get involved and sent the case back to Pennsylvania?
I guess now he's involved whether he likes it or not. He should have taken a stance and made a ruling before it got to this point.
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Re: God Bless Texas
[Re: warrior]
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Different era. About the same odds. Some of the same flags. Same principles.
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Re: God Bless Texas
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12/08/20 04:29 PM
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Well, didn't people complain to the Supreme Court that Pennsylvania was not following its written election laws and John Roberts said he didn't want to get involved and sent the case back to Pennsylvania?
I guess now he's involved whether he likes it or not. He should have taken a stance and made a ruling before it got to this point. Exactly ! This could have all been avoided if Roberts followed the law rather than ideology. It won't surprise me to see them refuse this case. Frankly, I am confused about exactly how Texas has been harmed. Their votes are certified and will go to the Electoral College. I don't see how they have standing. Clearly law has been violated by the other states and SCOTUS should address that. But I'd bet they won't
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Re: God Bless Texas
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Texas has standing because the constitution is an agreement made between the States to run Presidential elections under certain criteria. That contract/criteria was breached, and thus, here we are. A State court can't sanction another, SCOTUS is the appropriate course. This was always the smartest course. Because it does not require proving fraud of any kind. You can claim that changes made in the election process itself were unconstitutional, so it doesn't matter if the votes were legit or fraudulent, because they were made under false/unconstitutional practices in the first place.
Furthermore, so anyone questioning whether the SCOTUS would hear this at all?
Well, it's been docketed. No. 22O155
The remedy under the constitution is a House vote FYI.
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Re: God Bless Texas
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12/08/20 05:28 PM
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Lazuras , the state of Texas is it’s citizens. The state govt can Sue on their behalf. The AG of California filed many suits against the Trump administration on behalf of the citizens.
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Re: God Bless Texas
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Texas has standing because the constitution is an agreement made between the States to run Presidential elections under certain criteria. That contract/criteria was breached, and thus, here we are. A State court can't sanction another, SCOTUS is the appropriate course. This was always the smartest course. Because it does not require proving fraud of any kind. You can claim that changes made in the election process itself were unconstitutional, so it doesn't matter if the votes were legit or fraudulent, because they were made under false/unconstitutional practices in the first place.
Furthermore, so anyone questioning whether the SCOTUS would hear this at all?
Well, it's been docketed. No. 22O155
The remedy under the constitution is a House vote FYI.
**Sorry for being Canadian That's encouraging !!
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Re: God Bless Texas
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12/08/20 05:39 PM
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14th equal protection
Texas citizens followed the law while others did not. Texas citizens were harmed and effectively disenfranchised.
My point exactly. The Equal Protection clause does not protect states; it protects individuals. So citizens of Texas may have standing, but not the state of Texas. I could be wrong. I appreciate that Texas is taking a stand and all that, but I predict the Supremes toss the case based on standing. And on mootness. And on the lack of an available remedy. But what do I know? I thought you were a counselor, Counselor ? w
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Re: God Bless Texas
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12/08/20 06:09 PM
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SCOTUS will probably toss it after the announcement by Rep. Biedermann at noon today 12/8/2020.
Today, Texans are one step closer to having their voices heard on the issue of Texas independence. This morning, State Representative Kyle Biedermann has submitted the Texas Independence Referendum Act to be filed in the next session of the Texas Legislature.
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Re: God Bless Texas
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The U.S. Supreme Court cases cited in the article were brought by or against electors vis-à-vis their state. In other words, Colorado didn't sue Washington and argue that it should have done something different with how it handled its electors, which is what I understand the basis of the Texas lawsuit to be. I agree. I posted it for informational purposes regarding appointing electors and how the Current Supremes have veiwed it from some of the background information. I keep hearing people saying that the U.S. Constituion limits the State legislatures to making rules for elections. However this is clearly layed out in the Constitution that this is for Senators and Representatives. No mention of Presidents. "Section 4 Clause 1 The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators."
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Re: God Bless Texas
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12/08/20 08:24 PM
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I apologize if I missed this above, but Louisiana has joined Texas in the suit. You know it's real when the Cajuns pile on. That has been my hope since I first heard of it. That multiple states join in.
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Re: God Bless Texas
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Hopefully somethimg plays out and send biden packing or it will come down to #resist.
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