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Re: Midway's customer service sucks! [Re: James] #7090724
12/15/20 12:21 PM
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Didn't do the homework....Fail!


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Re: Midway's customer service sucks! [Re: James] #7090761
12/15/20 12:52 PM
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Great company. I order from them regularly, never had a bit of trouble. Ever wonder why all the descriptions of products are the same on every site? Because the manufacturers supply the descriptions. Midway can't be expected to put more information out there than the manufacturer gives them about the product. Remember checking that box that says I agree with these terms? That is where you said you said you were ok with their return policies. You have no leg to stand on with your frivolous whining. Typical democratic behavior to bash others when they don't bend over backwards to give you everything you want free. Maybe you should go start a "peaceful protest" in Mo., maybe burn the place down. Just "throw some money at it", see if it goes away.

Re: Midway's customer service sucks! [Re: James] #7090771
12/15/20 12:59 PM
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Even if Midway were to make it right you would still be out the time and hassle of shipping them back and waiting for the right ones to show up.

High BC match bullets typically mean a longer ogive. That means a faster twist may be needed.

While I'm not nearly as geographically remote as you, it's pretty much a full day if I want to go anywhere to purchase components. If something isn't listed I double check before I buy, especially with high BC bullets. The folks at Sierra and Hornady are very helpful with questions about their products. Hornady usually answers an email in less than an hour.

With the current state of ammunition I would just be thrilled with Midway for actually having something in stock... They've been out of most of my stuff for weeks now.

Mike


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Re: Midway's customer service sucks! [Re: insanelupus] #7090829
12/15/20 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by insanelupus
https://www.sierrabullets.com/product/243-caliber-95-gr-tmk/

James, the product descriptions are there for convenience, but the onus is still on the consumer to purchase the correct product. Sure, twist rate info would have been nice, but in the end, you received exactly the bullet you ordered. You are the one who made an uninformed decision.

You ordered a product not compatible with your rifle and didn't do your due diligence in researching it as you made an assumption about the bullets. A quick check at the manufacturer's website or a phone call to Sierra would have stopped an issue before you had one.

You received the product you ordered. Midway will refund the product price. You simply have to ship it to them. A reasonable response by any on line retailer.

Kind of a lifetime problem for him.


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Re: Midway's customer service sucks! [Re: James] #7090849
12/15/20 01:47 PM
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Re: Midway's customer service sucks! [Re: James] #7091017
12/15/20 03:57 PM
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When you sell that gun back to Joe Joe and Cameltoe,,make sure to tell them you bought the wrong bullets for it.Hahahaaaaaaa


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Re: Midway's customer service sucks! [Re: James] #7091043
12/15/20 04:13 PM
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Never had any problem with them

Re: Midway's customer service sucks! [Re: ~ADC~] #7091045
12/15/20 04:14 PM
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Thanks again for spending your money here in Missouri, James. I would say if you're not happy with Midway you could always try BassPro.. If that doesn't work and you're looking for a way to drown your sorrows than I would suggest a tall boy of Budweiser. lol

ol'dad





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Re: Midway's customer service sucks! [Re: James] #7091079
12/15/20 04:30 PM
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https://www.sierrabullets.com/product/243-caliber-95-gr-tmk/


Took me 30 seconds.

But I guess it was easier to harness your inner liberal and make it someone else’s fault.

Maybe you shouldn’t be reloading?

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Re: Midway's customer service sucks! [Re: James] #7091132
12/15/20 05:05 PM
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I have ordered the wrong thing from Midway myself in the past. Owned my mistake, paid the rtn postage, and got a prompt refund.

I had a similar situation as James with a 22-250. It had shot very well with 53 gr bullets until I tried some Hornady Vmax. They were all over the place because they were tumbling. The extra length due to the plastic tip made them unstable in my rifle because it moved the center of force further away from the center of mass. Somebody on here, cmcf or paul hepner maybe, got me squared away on what was happening. We all need to be careful about required twist rate when we try secant ogive and plastic tipped bullets.

Re: Midway's customer service sucks! [Re: Boone Liane] #7091160
12/15/20 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Boone Liane
https://www.sierrabullets.com/product/243-caliber-95-gr-tmk/


Took me 30 seconds.

But I guess it was easier to harness your inner liberal and make it someone else’s fault.

Maybe you shouldn’t be reloading?



And Boone for the win !!!!!!!


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Re: Midway's customer service sucks! [Re: James] #7091201
12/15/20 05:48 PM
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James has both a bass pro and Cabelas store where he lives. As well as smaller gun type stores. Also has more outdoor type stores 30 miles north.

Re: Midway's customer service sucks! [Re: martentrapper] #7091217
12/15/20 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by martentrapper
James has both a bass pro and Cabelas store where he lives. As well as smaller gun type stores. Also has more outdoor type stores 30 miles north.

Probably won't let him in where he voted biden


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Re: Midway's customer service sucks! [Re: Bruce T] #7091251
12/15/20 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Bruce T
Originally Posted by martentrapper
James has both a bass pro and Cabelas store where he lives. As well as smaller gun type stores. Also has more outdoor type stores 30 miles north.

Probably won't let him in where he voted biden

Probly don't let him in cause they sell him the bullets he asks for,,then he crys that they were the wrong ones.Hahahaaaa


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Re: Midway's customer service sucks! [Re: EdP] #7091259
12/15/20 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by EdP
I have ordered the wrong thing from Midway myself in the past. Owned my mistake, paid the rtn postage, and got a prompt refund.

I had a similar situation as James with a 22-250. It had shot very well with 53 gr bullets until I tried some Hornady Vmax. They were all over the place because they were tumbling. The extra length due to the plastic tip made them unstable in my rifle because it moved the center of force further away from the center of mass. Somebody on here, cmcf or paul hepner maybe, got me squared away on what was happening. We all need to be careful about required twist rate when we try secant ogive and plastic tipped bullets.


Thanks for the mention EdP. I generally try to help if it’s something I have experience with. After 40+ years of messing with this stuff there is still a ton of things I know little about, but the simple things and basics I am confident I have a pretty good grip on. I stopped responding to James posts as he has demonstrated his lack of understanding and skills and unwillingness to accept help from people like GreencountryPeet who have forgotten more about firearms and reloading than James will ever know.
For example a 1 in twelve for a .223 Remington. Huuh? Bbbut the book says 1/7-1/9 for those ugly black rifles
WTH ? Yet that particular gun will stabilize 62gr pills and hold dime size groups all day. Not all muzzle crowns are
created equal! Wait! What? Yep twist ain’t the only thing affecting stability.

Anyhoo Good luck James! As usual, you are wrong again. And double spacing your response and breaking it down for us as if we are dim witted children further reinforces my belief your requests for information and desire to badmouth a first rate business simply isn’t worth my time. Midway ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: Midway's customer service sucks! [Re: James] #7091301
12/15/20 06:58 PM
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Re: Midway's customer service sucks! [Re: Finster] #7091308
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Re: Midway's customer service sucks! [Re: James] #7091379
12/15/20 07:40 PM
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I had a uncle back in the day, gone now. He talked down to all the relatives as he had a higher education. Dad called him a educated dummy, said he was to smart for his own good. He got his tit in the wringer more than anyone I knew.


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Re: Midway's customer service sucks! [Re: Feedinggrounds] #7091385
12/15/20 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Feedinggrounds
I had a uncle back in the day, gone now. He talked down to all the relatives as he had a higher education. Dad called him a educated dummy, said he was to smart for his own good. He got his tit in the wringer more than anyone I knew.

Most of the idiots I know are college edumaked and have white collar jobs or school teachers, they are usually pretty stupid also. In fact, if I rank idiots I know, I would have to say:
1. Engineers
2. Lawyers
3. School teachers (including college professors).

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Re: Midway's customer service sucks! [Re: James] #7091388
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