We never covered your vote ! You skirted around the question ..... typical lawyer bs

And who is Franky ?[/quote]

Typo. I have repeatedly said and said it again last night that I did not vote for Biden. [/quote]


Not directly , but you did indirectly......it's not hard to figure out.

I had that choice here. If I lived in Chokesville GA or PA, I would have held my nose and voted for Trump. True.

I take it you never studied the martial arts like Jeet Kune Do, Krav Maga, Muay Thai, Kali, Escrima, etc. I’m talking about the down and dirty stuff when your life is in danger.

Put me in the lesser of two evils camp. I got told off more than once talking about all the stuff Trump promised and made no attempt to deliver on. Starting with national carry and suppressor delisting, finishing up with charging Hillary for secrecy violations. He is arrogant beyond anything I ever saw before.

He never went after the employers of illegals beyond a couple tokens but he did slow down illegal immigration. So far as I know however Afghanistan, even full of U.S. military, remains the number one producer of opium in the world.

He also made a good start in bringing manufacturing back to this country. Something that is desperately needed. America first is something I can get behind. I am fairly confident he is a capitalist and not a communist.


The stuff Biden wants is just not anything I can abide. From where I sit it looks more and more every day like our election result is the result of fraud. I don't believe I was outvoted.

You sure like to lay the blame on Trump. When the Repubs held the House and Senate the Hearing Protection Act never advanced out of the halls of Congress for the POTUS signature. The problem lies with politicians, no matter the party including Libertarians. Most serve to only enrich themselves with power and money, which Trump already possessed by the way. I supported Cruz in 2016 but was pleasantly surprised with the Trump administration even though I did not support the ban on bump stocks.

We study wrestling in Oklahoma.

Sometimes you let the other guy take a bad shot first.

No,gramps had that covered-"It's best to fight and run away so you can be around to fight another day-It goes hand in hand with the first commandment,and means the guy who gets picked up by the cops is the guy lying unconcious.
And no I didnt learn from no chinaman. My family is from Dublin,not Peking,lol.

None of those martial arts teaches the down and dirtiest and deadliest way to fight. It's so deadly it's banned in every sport, including MMA.

Ask Mike Tyson what it is. He only did it to a non-lethal target point.

Jim

Most on this forum do not know, and maybe don't even care that there is a science of psychology, developed in the mid-1800's by Sigmund Freud. Who cares you say.
You have no idea. It is the life we area as Westerners.
America in now a culture built on this, and those who holler loudest, "learn more science!," well science includes psychology.
Understanding the progression of this science helps you understand a few things;

Freud, called the 3 human psyche attributes; the Id, ego, and superego, who Freud theorized were formed in a "deterministic" (final) way in humans by age 6. This theory of psychoanalysis was and still is in play. Next time someone asks you for your "ID," think of Freud. The little devil on one shoulder and the good angel on the other shoulder = Freud.
We've all been taught it at some point. It was the theory of humanity from the 1850's until 1900 or so when a previous colleague of Freud, Alfred Adler stepped up and argued that human behavior was more formed by the decisions we make than by being determined by age 6. You've known Adlerian theory, you just may not have known it. Ex: To get a good job, you need an education. It is known as "cause and effect' that shapes your life = shapes your behavior. Ex: Make a good choice, good outcome. Bad decision, bad outcome.
This theory was epic from 1900 right up until 1980's.

Now, don't miss the next part; Academia has been teaching a NEW theory since the 1980's PLUS the "science" of sociology joined ranks for double fire power = whereby Adler's theory of a person's choices being responsible for a person's outcomes HAS BEEN replaced with: A person's behavior is determined by SOCIETY. Catch that? Not what I do. What the society around my allows me to do, or teaches me to do, etc.

I think all these are in play. But we now have a highly educated land of individuals who truly believe the individual's decisions CAN BE improved IF SOCIETY is arranged and constructed to assist in that. Ex: He can't find a job, because the people around him won't hire him. She can't do _________, because the laws of the city won't allow it. Society, society, society is now taught as the arbiter of behaviors, SO TO change someone's behavior - to help them, what must we do in 2020, 40 years after this type of psychology was first theorized? WE MUST CHANGE SOCIETY TO HELP PEOPLE. Ever hear of statues tipped over? It's not about history at the core. They are trying to help people by changing people's society they blame for humanity's making bad choices.

No more personally responsibility (Adler). No more devil & angel (person's conscious) duking it out (Freud).
Nope.
It's society.

So, YOU WILL NOT change this thinking in our culture. I think all three, Freud, Adlerian, and societal (various theorists) are in play but the Academics in our land is teaching what has been taught since the 1980's and the good news, there will be another theory of science in this field in 30-40 years. That seems to be the cycle. Until, then there is no compromise with those who TRULY believe they are helping people by changing society. The Adlerian believes instead you are crippling someone by not having showing them good choices to make and the Freudian believes you missed the conscious moral battle that rages in the human mind.

When you hear the person arguing with you about society this, that, and the other...... then you know. They bought the 1980-2020 theory over the 1900-1980 theory.

What does this have to do with gun control? This is huge. Sun Tzu; know your enemy. Know the terrain. Do you realize why many want to abolish the 2A? To control the people? Maybe. I offer, most look at this as a means to help individuals in society make better choices by outlawing guns at a society level so that people will make better choices and not buy guns. A fundamental conversion of American laws to stop people from making a bad choice to buy a gun... which could result in a bad behavior act.
It's a "cause" for these social engineers. It is in fact their philanthropy. You are a racist & hater if you stand for guns and don't want to help people "in society".

I just say, a bad actor, has made bad choices, ended up in a pickle and this is the main theory .... but then I was taught Alderian growing up.
My grandkids are being taught the exact opposite. Your kids too. Anyone in public institutions in the Western world since 1980's is bathed in it.

Wrestling is also good especially if combined with basic boxing. People trained in a good self defense program are less likely to use a firearm in many cases.

Yeah, I never could run worth a darn, but at least had the sense to get clean away when it was over.

Jim

Dang Jim, you're going with biting?

Im too old to fight. I need different tactics now

If your life is at stake, yes.

Jim

Hard to bite someone if your laying on the ground bleeding and begging for mercy....

Have you seriously not see the report's proving fraud.

Are you seriously going to keep enabling him? If so, thanks for giving the Country to the Democrats and destroying the 2A. See above.

Trump was the best potus this century and the end of last century.

Dumbcrats have been trying for years to Europize the U.S. They have gained a toehold and may soon be up to their ears under biden/harris.

Yes yes I will. I choose not to bury my head in the sand.