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Re: Screen pan covers [Re: rpmartin] #6900344
06/15/20 04:58 PM
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This is my way
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I make them for my #2 and 1.75 bridgers
I just do a little forming with my fingers after they are pressed
I also put a hinge on my jig and fastened the center piece
I just live to tinker

Re: Screen pan covers [Re: rpmartin] #6900359
06/15/20 05:16 PM
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Mac, yes the screen will work fine on a # 2 sized trap. Not sure about a trap smaller than that but with the way i shape mine with the rigidity of the screen next to the jaws and having the correct pan tension i think you should be good to go. I would try a few first to see how they work. Imo the smaller the trap you use the better at guiding you need to be, but sometimes in certain situations it's the only alternative.
Hope that helps a little, good luck.


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Re: Screen pan covers [Re: rpmartin] #6900361
06/15/20 05:23 PM
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Looks good wetdog that will work.
All of my ideas are expanded off someone else's idea.


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Re: Screen pan covers [Re: rpmartin] #6905177
06/20/20 02:02 PM
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Thank you RP for the very interesting and informational post.


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Re: Screen pan covers [Re: rpmartin] #6905379
06/20/20 06:10 PM
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Nice post. Its refreshing to see actual trapping content on this forum.


Re: Screen pan covers [Re: rpmartin] #6905381
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Agreed

Re: Screen pan covers [Re: rpmartin] #7093130
12/16/20 10:51 PM
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Re: Screen pan covers [Re: rpmartin] #7093218
12/16/20 11:46 PM
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I overlapped soft screen 1/2" over trap side jaws for years then used a tinny bit of dirt to keep wind from blowing it off.

Re: Screen pan covers [Re: Furvor] #7093242
12/17/20 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Furvor
I overlapped soft screen 1/2" over trap side jaws for years then used a tinny bit of dirt to keep wind from blowing it off.


Interesting, do you happen to have pictures of your setup? Thanks


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Re: Screen pan covers [Re: rpmartin] #7093260
12/17/20 12:39 AM
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A person has to have a way of keeping dirt and debris from keeping your pan from dropping far enough to fire. There are various ways to do this. Some put stuff under the pan and some put it over the pan.

In my opinion ths screen is superior due to the way the screen is shaped with it being straight up and down next to the jaws gives it more rigidity. So with rigidity and some pan tension helps keep the trap from firing until the animal's paw is inside the jaws of the trap far enough to make a good solid catch. This eliminates almost all toe catches, almost. Nothing is 100%. You might want to read this paragraph again, it's pretty important.

Also I like the way the screen fills the gap between the pan and the jaws as most people do not pack the dirt in this area. This way there is no soft spot that can tip a paranoid predator off. Hope this helps.


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Re: Screen pan covers [Re: rpmartin] #7093475
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I seldom come on here but this screen thing bugs me. A no. 4 to no .2 size trap screen works best any smaller size trap it will not work the best. Must have plenty of pan tension 6x6 piece will fit no. 4 -3 size trap. Just cut a spot for trap notch an slide it on. If square jaw trap leave corners square and round jaw trim corners. Lays flat every time the floppy screen well good luck. Would not set a trap with out it and sell the heaviest screen out there. Trapped five different states with it results all the same perfect catches.

Re: Screen pan covers [Re: rpmartin] #7094017
12/17/20 05:29 PM
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I bet the digger coyote cant remove the screen

Re: Screen pan covers [Re: rpmartin] #7094022
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Have you tried galvanized screen instead of black?

Re: Screen pan covers [Re: rpmartin] #7174185
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Re: Screen pan covers [Re: rpmartin] #7262013
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Re: Screen pan covers [Re: rpmartin] #7262026
05/11/21 06:53 AM
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great post RP this will make the Archives. Let's let it ride a bit first. Any thing new always brings out the I like the old way.....lol you covered that a few times with "if you have a method you like keep using it...." will follow this one for a while then Archive it.

Re: Screen pan covers [Re: braveheart] #7262042
05/11/21 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by braveheart
I seldom come on here but this screen thing bugs me. A no. 4 to no .2 size trap screen works best any smaller size trap it will not work the best. Must have plenty of pan tension 6x6 piece will fit no. 4 -3 size trap. Just cut a spot for trap notch an slide it on. If square jaw trap leave corners square and round jaw trim corners. Lays flat every time the floppy screen well good luck. Would not set a trap with out it and sell the heaviest screen out there. Trapped five different states with it results all the same perfect catches.


I don't understand why that someone that doesn't come on here very much, just can't stand it any longer and has to come here to disparage a different way of doing something they haven't even tried.

My way is easy and cheap to shape the screen. Just takes a scrap piece of plywood and a jigsaw.

If you are mainly using low pan dogless traps the shaped screen is probably not necessary. But if you have high pan dog on traps i feel the shaped screen covers will help a new trapper or anyone that would like to see if it works for them.

I feel it really works nice on Zagger's pipe dream set, because the screen sets perfectly flat over the top of the trap but it is still locked in and cannot move or flip up if the animal steps on the edge.

People use a lot of different ways to cover their pan or use various stuff under their pan, so what's the big deal on a little different way to do something. We should be trying to work together on this instead of tearing each other down!!! Marty, i think your screen would work great shaped my way and locked down for some trappers out there. Also i think your bait is some of the best I've ever used. Thanks


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Re: Screen pan covers [Re: rpmartin] #7262153
05/11/21 09:56 AM
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RP don't let the nay sayers get to you there just mad because they didn't think of it first ! But you probably caused a scrap plywood shortage because of this good idea of your's . Ha ha

I normally will set snares for coyotes and bobcats but if I go back to setting traps again I'll definitely be giving your idea a try .
Keep up the good work !
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Re: Screen pan covers [Re: rpmartin] #7262210
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This is not peeing on anyone's parade, so relax.

Before coyotes, and interweb, I had small traps.
I tried stiff screen, it made the trigger fire area
to close to the jaws and was a disaster.
Scrapped that idea.

Then came coyotes, bigger traps, and the web.
Some of these very guys coached me and
stiff screen on bigger traps worked great,
tucked under jaws so trigger area was not extended to the jaws.
I don't want fired if standing on jaw.

No stiff screen on small traps for me thanks.

OPs jig may work fine, I've not tried it. Jig saw blew up lol.




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Re: Screen pan covers [Re: rpmartin] #7262735
05/12/21 05:07 AM
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Just found this, great idea. Has anyone tried using this with the MB650 with both jaws being held down? Any thoughts?


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