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Re: What's up with usps [Re: DanN] #7095062
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Awhile back Trump imposed changes on USPS because it is soaking up too many tax dollars. One of the changes to save money was no more overtime. So now a carrier will only load his truck with the amount of mail that can be delivered without staying out late. Google Trumps changes to USPS. Read the old dated articles. What we have now is more unintended consequence. There were other changes as well.


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Re: What's up with usps [Re: DanN] #7095068
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USPS has run its course..time to end it and let private enterprise run the mail system.Sorry to you gov. postal workers but it has become totally inefficient.Have a package of traps being shipped to me since Dec 6.Tracking # says in transit for over a week now..total distance from start to my house..200 miles...they are the height of inefficiency

Re: What's up with usps [Re: DanN] #7095105
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Speaking to the choir but I find it somewhat amusing to hear people get fired up about the incompetent USPS when it comes to their Christmas presents but fully trusted them with the presidential election. Glad to see where their priorities are.

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Re: What's up with usps [Re: marathonman] #7095109
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Originally Posted by marathonman
USPS has run its course..time to end it and let private enterprise run the mail system.Sorry to you gov. postal workers but it has become totally inefficient.Have a package of traps being shipped to me since Dec 6.Tracking # says in transit for over a week now..total distance from start to my house..200 miles...they are the height of inefficiency


Sorry, marathonman but I have to disagree with you saying USPS has run its course and we need to let private enterprise run the mail system. The so called “business” person Trump appointed to run the Post Office was a disaster. Ever since this guy was appointed the USPS service went down hill. All this guy did was eliminate sorting machinery and eliminate o/t of the workers. There is no private enterprise that wants to deliver a letter or newspaper for what USPS gets paid to deliver it.

If anything more money needs to be pumped into the USPS to make it more efficient. It is one if not the only government agency that comes close to supporting itself. Yes, it loses money but I doubt there is a mail service in the world that makes money. We should be investing in people and sorting machinery to make our mail system the most efficient in the world.

Without USPS there would be no one to keep parcel rates in check. FedX and UPS rates would likely raise even more and faster than they do now.

Re: What's up with usps [Re: DanN] #7095117
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The President doesn't appoint the Postmaster General.

The USPS had big problems long before Trump's administration.


Eh...wot?

Re: What's up with usps [Re: DanN] #7095121
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I have a package I sent out dec4 and it stayed in PA for 12 days. It is now in S Carolina sitting in a facilty there. Im taking all kinds of flak from the customer on behalf of USPS- I got it to them in time. I will say most of the time they do great but Ive never seen a Xmas season go matrix slow like this one.

Re: What's up with usps [Re: DanN] #7095122
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USPS, a government bureaucracy, staffed by union workers, need I say more ? My wife is a retired Postmaster with 33 years of service.

Re: What's up with usps [Re: DanN] #7095136
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I went by the outside drop box at the post office yesterday afternoon to drop some Christmas cards and the two LARGE OVERSIZE drop boxes were full and I couldn't even get my cards stuffed into the drop boxes. I'll check again this morning. They are supposed to be emptied every day at 5:00 P.M.


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Re: What's up with usps [Re: DanN] #7095141
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I see some of these threads and I understand the inconveniences this may have caused. I also beleive people just need to relax and give these delivery people/companies some slack.
I have also had some packages take many weeks to month's to arrive but it is what it is now.


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Re: What's up with usps [Re: DanN] #7095149
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If you have a package that is "stuck" you need to contact the post office directly. They will do a internal search and get things moving. I ship more packages then most as a eBay, Gunbroker seller and have had this several times over the years.

Re: What's up with usps [Re: snowy] #7095151
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Originally Posted by snowy
I see some of these threads and I understand the inconveniences this may have caused. I also beleive people just need to relax and give these delivery people/companies some slack.
I have also had some packages take many weeks to month's to arrive but it is what it is now.


And just accepting it is why it will never get any better. Accountability is needed and should be expected.

Re: What's up with usps [Re: trapdog1] #7095156
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Originally Posted by trapdog1
Originally Posted by snowy
I see some of these threads and I understand the inconveniences this may have caused. I also beleive people just need to relax and give these delivery people/companies some slack.
I have also had some packages take many weeks to month's to arrive but it is what it is now.


And just accepting it is why it will never get any better. Accountability is needed and should be expected.



X 2

This is a completely unacceptable level of service.


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Re: What's up with usps [Re: beeman] #7095219
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Originally Posted by beeman
Originally Posted by marathonman
USPS has run its course..time to end it and let private enterprise run the mail system.Sorry to you gov. postal workers but it has become totally inefficient.Have a package of traps being shipped to me since Dec 6.Tracking # says in transit for over a week now..total distance from start to my house..200 miles...they are the height of inefficiency


Sorry, marathonman but I have to disagree with you saying USPS has run its course and we need to let private enterprise run the mail system. The so called “business” person Trump appointed to run the Post Office was a disaster. Ever since this guy was appointed the USPS service went down hill. All this guy did was eliminate sorting machinery and eliminate o/t of the workers. There is no private enterprise that wants to deliver a letter or newspaper for what USPS gets paid to deliver it.

If anything more money needs to be pumped into the USPS to make it more efficient. It is one if not the only government agency that comes close to supporting itself. Yes, it loses money but I doubt there is a mail service in the world that makes money. We should be investing in people and sorting machinery to make our mail system the most efficient in the world.

Without USPS there would be no one to keep parcel rates in check. FedX and UPS rates would likely raise even more and faster than they do now.



The USPO has been a joke for many years but you blame Trump what a surprise. LOL Just look at what they did to flat rate pricing it was a deal at one time now it has almost doubled. The red tape mess and lack of accountability makes for poor service they charge high prices and can ask for tax money to help with their loses. Ask yourself how UPS and FedEx do the same job and profit from it.


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Re: What's up with usps [Re: Lugnut] #7095222
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USPS was busy enough but the precious private companies couldn’t handle the volume so they put quotas on how much they would pick up from certain big shippers. Result was a huge influx of packages to the USPS. They don’t have the option to tell Amazon or anyone else your shipping more than we can handle so we are not going to pick it all up like the private companies do. Our carrier went from his standard car load a day to several carloads a day and he is supposed to get it done in same amount of time because of no overtime.


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Re: What's up with usps [Re: DanN] #7095268
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Don't order anything online, go drive some place and buy it off the shelf. Same day and have your item in hand and no waiting. Problem solved! Then if all did that, the processes would speed up for the rest us.


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A lot of the cheaper options have been eliminated and replaced by “faster” more expensive options that are no faster in any way.


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Re: What's up with usps [Re: beeman] #7095296
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Originally Posted by beeman
Originally Posted by marathonman
USPS has run its course..time to end it and let private enterprise run the mail system.Sorry to you gov. postal workers but it has become totally inefficient.Have a package of traps being shipped to me since Dec 6.Tracking # says in transit for over a week now..total distance from start to my house..200 miles...they are the height of inefficiency


Sorry, marathonman but I have to disagree with you saying USPS has run its course and we need to let private enterprise run the mail system. The so called “business” person Trump appointed to run the Post Office was a disaster. Ever since this guy was appointed the USPS service went down hill. All this guy did was eliminate sorting machinery and eliminate o/t of the workers. There is no private enterprise that wants to deliver a letter or newspaper for what USPS gets paid to deliver it.

If anything more money needs to be pumped into the USPS to make it more efficient. It is one if not the only government agency that comes close to supporting itself. Yes, it loses money but I doubt there is a mail service in the world that makes money. We should be investing in people and sorting machinery to make our mail system the most efficient in the world.

Without USPS there would be no one to keep parcel rates in check. FedX and UPS rates would likely raise even more and faster than they do now.


Throwing more money at it will fix the problem. That always works. Ask Amtrak.

Re: What's up with usps [Re: Gary Benson] #7095366
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
I went by the outside drop box at the post office yesterday afternoon to drop some Christmas cards and the two LARGE OVERSIZE drop boxes were full and I couldn't even get my cards stuffed into the drop boxes. I'll check again this morning. They are supposed to be emptied every day at 5:00 P.M.

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Re: What's up with usps [Re: snowy] #7095469
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Originally Posted by snowy
Don't order anything online, go drive some place and buy it off the shelf. Same day and have your item in hand and no waiting. Problem solved! Then if all did that, the processes would speed up for the rest us.


Problem is you drive to store and they don't have it !!!

Re: What's up with usps [Re: DanN] #7095482
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Well I got my own horror story. I an one that earlier was saying cut them slack as the hundreds of more packages because of online shopping. BUT now I have a story. My nephews birthday was Dec12 . He lives 70 miles away so I mailed it. He still hasn't received it. It first went to Memphis tenn 381 miles. Going right past the town he lives in. It left there Tuesday ( 5 days past the delivery date) to Cincinnati Oh . (481 miles ) and has been sitting there for 4 days.

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