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Re: Vaccine Side effects [Re: Bob Jameson] #7094630
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The FDA said it is tracking Bell's palsy cases after four people taking the Pfizer vaccine developed the condition, but there's currently no reason to think the vaccine caused the condition. Along with the three people who developed Bell's palsy after taking the Moderna vaccine, a fourth, who took the placebo also experienced the condition. More than 30,000 people participated.


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Re: Vaccine Side effects [Re: Bob Jameson] #7094641
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This guy says covid is easier to treat than the flu.

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Re: Vaccine Side effects [Re: Bob Jameson] #7094808
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How common was Bells Palsy a year ago?

Re: Vaccine Side effects [Re: Bob Jameson] #7094867
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And in the state of Californistan it causes cancer and reproductive ..... well like everything else there from rebar to tooth paste.


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Re: Vaccine Side effects [Re: Bob Jameson] #7094973
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The worst side effect that I have heard of is that it turns you into a Liberal !!!!


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Re: Vaccine Side effects [Re: Bob Jameson] #7095277
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Re: Vaccine Side effects [Re: rick brocious] #7095284
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Dover said that she has a condition where she could faint when she feels pain.

"It just hit me all of a sudden," she said, according to the station. "I could feel it coming on. I felt a little disoriented but I feel fine now, and the pain in my arm is gone," she said.

Re: Vaccine Side effects [Re: Bob Jameson] #7095381
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So if a person that has had the vaccine still has to ware a mask, can still catch Corvid, what is it doing for you?


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Re: Vaccine Side effects [Re: MJM] #7095411
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Originally Posted by MJM
So if a person that has had the vaccine still has to ware a mask, can still catch Corvid, what is it doing for you?


Why in the world would you even think about injecting logic into the mix!!


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Re: Vaccine Side effects [Re: MJM] #7095418
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Originally Posted by MJM
So if a person that has had the vaccine still has to ware a mask, can still catch Corvid, what is it doing for you?


The vaccine, like all others, causes your body to build antibodies specifically designed to fight thhe virus in question. This means that if covid finds its way into your body, you will already have the immune system geared up to fight it rather than your body building that immunity after infection. So you will have a lighter virus load, it will make it more difficult for the virus to reproduce inside you, and you will recover faster if you even show symptoms at all. A light viral load will also mean that you will be far less likely to spread it.

Again, not getting the vaccine here, but since so many here don’t understand how vaccines work, figured I would explain.


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Re: Vaccine Side effects [Re: Bob Jameson] #7095425
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Why would anyone believe man could make better antibodies
God gave us the best antibody building machine on the planet
Our own body
Take care of it. It's the only one you get

Re: Vaccine Side effects [Re: wetdog] #7095464
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Originally Posted by wetdog
Why would anyone believe man could make better antibodies
God gave us the best antibody building machine on the planet
Our own body
Take care of it. It's the only one you get


I don’t know, why don’t you ask Polio?


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Re: Vaccine Side effects [Re: Bob Jameson] #7095496
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Re: Vaccine Side effects [Re: Bob Jameson] #7095506
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Plenty of people had natural immunity to polio.

Re: Vaccine Side effects [Re: Bob Jameson] #7095509
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If you're vitamin deficient your open to all kinds of viruses/bacteria...


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I know some healthcare workers who are really into this vaccine.
Some of these HC workers say the good news outweigh the risks.
My wife is an RN and says we will never take this vaccine. As stated , virus mutate, and this one will and has.
Sad to see common sense is thrown out in lot of these "science" circles.
Also concerning is the $$ question.
Follow the $ on this!! Big pharma, big billionaires are behind this. ..and all claim it is "safe" and "new technology ".
No thanks, I'll stick to outdoor activities, and normal healthy lifestyle things such as vitamin 's and eating good food.

Re: Vaccine Side effects [Re: yukon254] #7095532
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Originally Posted by yukon254
Originally Posted by MJM
So if a person that has had the vaccine still has to ware a mask, can still catch Corvid, what is it doing for you?


Why in the world would you even think about injecting logic into the mix!!



You guys are confused about the terms.

The vaccine is designed to prevent the DISEASE not the infection. It MAY be entirely possible to become infected but not have it result in disease.


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Re: Vaccine Side effects [Re: Bob Jameson] #7095535
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Originally Posted by white17
You guys are confused about the terms. The vaccine is designed to prevent the DISEASE not the infection. It MAY be entirely possible to become infected but not have it result in disease.


That happens all the time with out the vaccine. Both my girls tested positive and never had a single symptom. But they are added in the numbers of having it. How many positive cases fall in line with that. How many have mild symptoms and never go in for it?


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Re: Vaccine Side effects [Re: Bob Jameson] #7095539
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That's correct about asymptomatic positive tests. It may be that that is the eventual outcome. That would be a good thing IMO. But if the vaccine will reduce the symptomatic cases by 95 %, then that is even better.


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Re: Vaccine Side effects [Re: Bob Jameson] #7095546
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Originally Posted by white17


You guys are confused about the terms.

The vaccine is designed to prevent the DISEASE not the infection. It MAY be entirely possible to become infected but not have it result in disease.

The reports are it stops some of thr symptoms. Pfizer's 95% efficacy rate comes from the percent of people that were vaccinated that didn't have symptoms. They apparently only tested the people who came down with symptoms for coronavirus. It doesn't really say of it prevents spread of the virus. It would be better if we know whether it's preventing the virus from replicating enough to become transmissible or that if you are riddled with coronavirus but the vaccine keeps you from having symptoms.

No symptoms is great. If you can still transmit it...not so much.

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