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Re: President of cci on ammo production [Re: bowhunter27295] #7096721
12/19/20 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
The man is the CEO of a major ammunition manufacturing company. He has to deal with anti 2A people enough. And from what I see on here, some of you are really stupid and childish.

1. He is a CEO. I am sure he did not get that way straight off the street. I give a rat's butt what he makes. If the company can afford to pay him that, so be it. If any of you on here would take this job and say, nah, I think 50K will be just fine for my salary, you are an idiot.

2. The man deals with hate mail from anti 2A whackos and then has to deal with cry babies from his own ranks telling him to make more ammo and quit hoarding it in secret warehouses? Again, stupid.

3. Then some morons think he wants to throttle back production. So if he does that wouldn't that mean he wouldn't have hired 100s more employees? Wouldn't that mean he would be making less ammo therefore less money? Good grief at the stupidity.

4. Still others think he isn't making enough ammo in the correct fashion. It's CCI for goodness sake. They have been making ammo for how long? If you can run the company better, then fight for his job and show us how it is done. Otherwise, shut up and buy ammo as it comes available.

5. On the flip side, other people think they should tell him to make ammo faster. Not even gonna comment on that stupidity.

6. Then others think he should just build another production facility. Well, those don't get built in 2 days. Land, architecture, supplies, specialized manufacturing equipment, finding more QUALITY employees. And all the should happen in POOF, two minutes. Embarrassing.

If you don't like how he said what he said, toughen up butter cup. He said things like a man would say things. Not a politician and not a "PR specialist". I admire him and this only makes me more loyal to CCI.

We are living in unprecedented times with people making decisions previously unneeded. Here is a list of things on short supply. Please contact the CEOs of these companies also and accuse them of the same stupidity you accuse CCI of doing.

toilet paper
paper towels
canning lids
canning jars
seeds
slaughter dates at slaughter houses

and perhaps the shortest thing on supply is:

QUALITY EMPLOYEES

So many more things to add. Feel free to add on to this list as mine is very personal to my needs and shortages or lack thereof.

If you did not stock up on things before all this came, that is your fault and no one else's. Learn to stock up one season ahead. When everyone else is buying seeds, buy canning supplies. When everyone else is buying canning supplies, buy seeds. It ain't rocket science. Most people are like a grasshopper. Be like an ant. You will find the shelves fully stocked when you go to purchase items in this order.

I'm surprised that they get as much manufactured as they do. Lawsuits are impacting everyone that makes or sells ammo and guns. Remington made more ammo than this before they were sued out of business for manufacturing a legal product that criminals used illegally. Progressives are sueing anyone they disagree with.

Re: President of cci on ammo production [Re: 41cal] #7096735
12/19/20 02:15 PM
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I didn't see anything wrong with that video. He came across just fine to me.

Re: President of cci on ammo production [Re: 41cal] #7096739
12/19/20 02:21 PM
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Didn't seem prickish to me, and while I'm sure he's frustrated too, it didn't come across that he's pulling his hair out....oh, wait, he did....LOL

Give the guy a break..... cool

Re: President of cci on ammo production [Re: gutthooked] #7096745
12/19/20 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by gutthooked
Seen on another board that CCI is 2.5 years behind on their orders. They need to set up more machines and expand, itll just keep getting worse now.


Would you expand your ammo business not knowing what Biden is going to do? It cost lots of money to do so.


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Re: President of cci on ammo production [Re: waggler] #7096760
12/19/20 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by waggler
I don't blame him.
How about the "pricks" who think they need 50,000 rounds of 22 ammo.

X2

Re: President of cci on ammo production [Re: 41cal] #7096762
12/19/20 02:41 PM
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Yes Heck about everything is behind. Car makers are 6 months out on any new vehicle "unless", you settle for what they get in

Re: President of cci on ammo production [Re: Bigfoot] #7096790
12/19/20 02:58 PM
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So open a factory. The problem are those that keep buying more when they have several thousand rounds.

Re: President of cci on ammo production [Re: 41cal] #7096802
12/19/20 03:12 PM
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Is all that ammo coming out of one building? If so, they ought to expand......so not all eggs in one basket. They are one teensy little fire away from being a big hole in the ground.

I'd also be curious to see a diagram of their distribution network. When trucks leave the docks, where does it go? Not questioning, just curious. Straight to Midway? Straight to Bass Pro? Or through several layers of wholesalers? In other words, how many times is it handled / bought / sold before I get to touch it?

And like the virus vaccine.....who decides priority?

Re: President of cci on ammo production [Re: 41cal] #7096803
12/19/20 03:12 PM
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I appreciated his message, maybe it did sound a little abrasive but he wasn't talking about rainbows and unicorns. Sometimes you have to actually say what you mean very plainly for people to understand.

"Unprecedented times" is one of those terms, buzz words, that really doesn't mean much. I think the time between late October 1929 and mid 1945 were pretty "unprecedented", but then again so were the 1960's, 1995 and 2001,


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Re: President of cci on ammo production [Re: 41cal] #7096805
12/19/20 03:17 PM
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His frustration may be valid, but his delivery was very poor. He could have alternatively addressed the inaccuracies and not come across as upset with a segment of his customers.

Re: President of cci on ammo production [Re: 41cal] #7096806
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No wonder there's an ammo shortage, with someone who thinks the shortage started 9 months ago as president. There's been a shortage for almost 30 years here. It started in the '90s with primers hard to find. crazy

Re: President of cci on ammo production [Re: 41cal] #7096807
12/19/20 03:18 PM
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His frustration may be valid, but his delivery was very poor. He could have alternatively addressed the inaccuracies and not come across as upset with a segment of his customers.

Re: President of cci on ammo production [Re: 41cal] #7096810
12/19/20 03:22 PM
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I think some guys on here should go get a loan and start their own massive ammo company and show these companies how to do it right...

Re: President of cci on ammo production [Re: TrappedOut] #7096812
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Originally Posted by TrappedOut
I think some guys on here should go get a loan and start their own massive ammo company and show these companies how to do it right...


When pallet shops needed trucking here, we bought trucks.

There's something holding those companies back or they'd have competition or have been expanding for the last couple decades instead of declaring bankruptcy.

Re: President of cci on ammo production [Re: TrappedOut] #7096815
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Originally Posted by TrappedOut
I think some guys on here should go get a loan and start their own massive ammo company and show these companies how to do it right...


X2


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Re: President of cci on ammo production [Re: 41cal] #7096825
12/19/20 03:35 PM
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I appreciated his honest message, glad it wasn't spit polished by PR types. He's clearly not a politician.

Re: President of cci on ammo production [Re: jbyrd63] #7096826
12/19/20 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
[quote=waggler]I don't blame him.
How about the "pricks" who think they need 50,000 rounds of 22 ammo.

I agree.


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Re: President of cci on ammo production [Re: 41cal] #7096873
12/19/20 04:19 PM
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A couple of years ago ammo was easy to get and cheap, that's when I stocked up. If you waited till now to buy you missed the boat.

Re: President of cci on ammo production [Re: 41cal] #7096876
12/19/20 04:22 PM
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Yeah, this guy has no right to stand up for his company against vicious, untrue attacks. Sounds familiar to some arguments made against another person here and everywhere else pretty regularly. I'm sure these attacks really help him motivate his employees as well. Especially if he didn't stand up against said attacks, laying down and taking it is a real moral booster.

Re: President of cci on ammo production [Re: run] #7096893
12/19/20 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
Poor upset Jason's salary

the President - Ammunition of Vista Outdoor Inc, the total compensation of Jason Vanderbrink at Vista Outdoor Inc is $1,234,350.




That's it?

Originally Posted by run
Originally Posted by jbyrd63
[quote=waggler]I don't blame him.
How about the "pricks" who think they need 50,000 rounds of 22 ammo.

I agree.



I haven't shot my 22 in years, but I have 10,000 rounds. Big deal, that cost me about $400. Next thing you know someone will say owning more than 10 guns is too much or we shouldn't be able to own 10 plus round magazines.

This time last year ammo was cheap and plentiful, those who are over 30 and didn't learn from the gulf war years should have acted like the ant. This shortage sucks, I didn't have a need for small rifle primers until this fall and have been looking for a certain lower for 3 months. No ones fault but my own.


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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