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Propane problem #7103190
12/24/20 06:57 AM
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Hooked a 1000 gal tank with new high pressure regulator this fall ,seemed to work fine until it got real cold now it barely keeps the water hot in the water heater when furnace runs I have a red regulator on tank and gray on side of house Any Ideas what needs to be done ?

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Re: Propane problem [Re: Snowpa] #7103194
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Any other propane equipment like furnace or stove having problems? 1000 gallon tank sure isn't just for the water alone.


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Re: Propane problem [Re: Snowpa] #7103197
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sounds like frozen regulator . tap on regulator to see if its open all the way , have you check valve on tank to make sure its open all the way

Re: Propane problem [Re: Snowpa] #7103219
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What Dahlgren said. Sounds like frozen condensation is guming things up.

Re: Propane problem [Re: Snowpa] #7103224
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Furnace runs OK I take it? I have seen issues before with line diameter, or 1 fitting or adapter that is restricting. Or what the others have said, which also comes back to restriction. Did you do all the plumbing and tank set? If not I would be calling whoever did.


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Re: Propane problem [Re: Snowpa] #7103356
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If the only problem is the water heater, the water heater could be the problem. Did you adjust the pressure on the water heater and furnace. There should be a nipple you hook a tube to and a meter will read the pressure. I can not remember what it is called, but I know it was done on my propane furnace. From what I remember it comes into play when when you run more than one item.

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Re: Propane problem [Re: MJM] #7103405
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Originally Posted by MJM
If the only problem is the water heater, the water heater could be the problem. Did you adjust the pressure on the water heater and furnace. There should be a nipple you hook a tube to and a meter will read the pressure. I can not remember what it is called, but I know it was done on my propane furnace. From what I remember it comes into play when when you run more than one item.


A manometer. Dont know why I know that....Ive never used one



Re: Propane problem [Re: Snowpa] #7103734
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I think I would take a hair dryer to the out side regulators first and go from there.


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Re: Propane problem [Re: Snowpa] #7103745
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do you own the tank or rent the tank?

if rent call and tell them they should send an LP tech to fix it

if you own it who installed ? you should call them and tell them what you have going on likely a bad regulator , they deal with it all the time and can change it out or sell you the part if your comfortable changing it yourself.


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Re: Propane problem [Re: Snowpa] #7103758
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I had the same problem, it was butane and would freeze when it got down to 25. I put a 15 watt light bulb on the inside of a cut off bucket made to fit the regulator. Then I changed to real propane and it has to get below 0 for the regulator to start icing up.

Re: Propane problem [Re: Snowpa] #7103777
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Furnace is acting up also ,Guess I will have to wait tll next week to call as I do own every thing hope i can keep the wife warm


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Re: Propane problem [Re: Snowpa] #7103786
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Try what MJM suggested and see if it makes a difference. Be careful though because you could get a surge of propane to the appliance. There have been some bad accidents up here from folks heating their regulator. Sounds like condensation in the line or in the regulators. You COULD shut off the gas and take the regulators in the house and heat them to dry them out . Replace and see it that helps.

Usually the only time we see problems is at minus 40 or if the tank is low on fuel


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Re: Propane problem [Re: white17] #7103980
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[s][/s][quote=white17]Try what MJM suggested and see if it makes a difference. Be careful though because you could get a surge of propane to the appliance. There have been some bad accidents up here from folks heating their regulator. Sounds like condensation in the line or in the regulators. You COULD shut off the gas and take the regulators in the house and heat them to dry them out . Replace and see it that helps.

Usually the only time we see problems is at minus 40 or if the tank is low on fuel[/quote Ute
The last part of White 17 is the correct one. I managed a branch office for a propane destributor, tank sets, plumbing, appliance conversion the works.
More than likely condensation in regulator or simply a bad one. They do go bad on occasion. Close main valve on tank, remove regulator take inside and heat with a hair dryer or similar till warm to the touch tap the output side on a paper towel to check for condensation, tap diaphram body with hammer handle reinstall with body of regulator horizontal , purge line and Check all connections for leaks. Restart appliances and check for proper function. If problem persists have your supplier inject some dryer into the tank, methanol. This should have been done at time of installation.
Unfortunate timing hope you get it going ok
Propane has a vapor pressure of -44* if the ambient temperature is warmer than that you should have gas.
Butane is around -8* if I remember correctly


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Re: Propane problem [Re: Snowpa] #7104002
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Sounds like condensation is freezing up and not allowing the regulator to open up. I’ve seen this here in balmy Goldsboro NC twice in natural gas. I wave a torch over the regulator myself or if your afraid of that(remember the gas is inside not outside and you only have to beat it enough to melt the condensation ) you can always use a heat gun or hair dryer.


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Re: Propane problem [Re: Snowpa] #7104003
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... I can’t help all I have is a little 150 gal for a heater... but I hope you get it figured out cause that sounds like a real propane in the a.....


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Re: Propane problem [Re: cmcf] #7104036
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Originally Posted by cmcf
[s][/s][quote=white17]Try what MJM suggested and see if it makes a difference. Be careful though because you could get a surge of propane to the appliance. There have been some bad accidents up here from folks heating their regulator. Sounds like condensation in the line or in the regulators. You COULD shut off the gas and take the regulators in the house and heat them to dry them out . Replace and see it that helps.

Usually the only time we see problems is at minus 40 or if the tank is low on fuel[/quote Ute
The last part of White 17 is the correct one. I managed a branch office for a propane destributor, tank sets, plumbing, appliance conversion the works.
More than likely condensation in regulator or simply a bad one. They do go bad on occasion. Close main valve on tank, remove regulator take inside and heat with a hair dryer or similar till warm to the touch tap the output side on a paper towel to check for condensation, tap diaphram body with hammer handle reinstall with body of regulator horizontal , purge line and Check all connections for leaks. Restart appliances and check for proper function. If problem persists have your supplier inject some dryer into the tank, methanol. This should have been done at time of installation.
Unfortunate timing hope you get it going ok
Propane has a vapor pressure of -44* if the ambient temperature is warmer than that you should have gas.
Butane is around -8* if I remember correctly

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Re: Propane problem [Re: Savell] #7104043
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Originally Posted by Savell
... I can’t help all I have is a little 150 gal for a heater... but I hope you get it figured out cause that sounds like a real propane in the a.....

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Re: Propane problem [Re: Snowpa] #7104046
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Lots of good info . will wait till it warms up a bit and try some of those remedies


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Re: Propane problem [Re: Snowpa] #7104085
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Didn't see if was a demand water heater or regular tank. On demand requires a lot more fuel and could well contribute to a line freezing.


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Re: Propane problem [Re: Snowpa] #7104104
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Check pressure regulator may need adjusted

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