Re: What is making lumber prices go up
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What is making the lumber prices keep rising. The price for a sheet of 7/16 OSB was at $23.85 2 weeks ago and now it sets at $29.15 a sheet. The timber price to make theOSB is around 3 dollars a ton to the land owner, so it sounds like price gouging to me. That ton of chips has about 750 lbs or less of chips usable for OSB most in the woods chip producers don't make the long chips that go into OSB. The chips made in the woods are probably going to a cogeneration plant for energy. Or to a operation like ours that colors and bags landscape mulch. I know I have been paying very well for Red Pine post logs in 12, 10, 8 and 7 foot length. A week or so ago it seems I remember 1/2 osb here was just over $17.00 4x8 sheet. It may have went up. I will look today. Thats pretty low for osb
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Re: What is making lumber prices go up
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330, look into it. Honest question. Are you aware how much of your lumber comes from here? It supplies about 1/3 of construction needs there. Are you aware of the tariffs added? (you pay for them) While the idea behind the tariffs was likely well intended (make American companies more competitive price wise) it just led to you paying more for wood from Canada.
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Re: What is making lumber prices go up
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330, look into it. Honest question. Are you aware how much of your lumber comes from here? It supplies about 1/3 of construction needs there. Are you aware of the tariffs added? (you pay for them) You'd better make a post quick Your post count # is not good
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Re: What is making lumber prices go up
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12/28/20 10:38 AM
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America First trade policies don’t necessarily put the avg American buying lumber first. The Canadian tariffs are hammering you guys in the pocket books. Weyerhaeuser alone lists 34 OSB mills in the US, three in Minnesota alone. 20 I think in Canada. I doubt the tarrifs have caused the retail price to more than quadrupled. Osky
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Re: What is making lumber prices go up
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Osky, it’s fine to “doubt”, that is your take on things. Doubt is not “know” and there are many articles pertaining to tariffs and the cost being passed to consumers. You could take a little time to read up on it, then you could take your doubt and solidify it into a “know”. I’m not saying they are solely to blame for your higher prices but they’re factoring in big time. To not acknowledge that is either ignorant or arrogant, or both. I do not doubt tarrifs are hi. Nor what you say. OSB did not go from 6 dollars something per sheet to the edge of 30 dollars per sheet retail price in 9 months solely on tarrifs. There’s greed mixed in there as well, plus a few other factors. Osky Home Depot had 2nd quarter earnings up at 23%. 3rd quarter at just over that. Lowe’s I think posted better than 30% increases in those two quarters as well.
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Re: What is making lumber prices go up
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12/28/20 10:56 AM
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Osky, it’s fine to “doubt”, that is your take on things. Doubt is not “know” and there are many articles pertaining to tariffs and the cost being passed to consumers. You could take a little time to read up on it, then you could take your doubt and solidify it into a “know”. I’m not saying they are solely to blame for your higher prices but they’re factoring in big time. To not acknowledge that is either ignorant or arrogant, or both. I do not doubt tarrifs are hi. Nor what you say. OSB did not go from 6 dollars something per sheet to the edge of 30 dollars per sheet retail price in 9 months solely on tarrifs. There’s greed mixed in there as well, plus a few other factors. Osky But but but Osky, " you're not in the "know" and you're "not acknowledge that is either ignorant or arrogant, or both." You've been told^^^^.
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Re: What is making lumber prices go up
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It’s not just OSB it’s all lumber that went nuts.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
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Re: What is making lumber prices go up
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everyone is doing home renovations
lots of plywood boarding up American businesses over the summer miles of plywood and OSB covering windows
my wife works for a millwork plant , they can't build and ship doors fast enough to keep up
anyone who could afford to move out of a city is
home values outside of big cities are going crazy
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Re: What is making lumber prices go up
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Well 330, I do “know” that I just paid 31.00 per 16’ 2x10 floor joist, 5.79 per precut stud, 6.57 for simple 8’ Studs, well over 2 dollars a foot for lineal 2x4. 33.00 for tongue and groove 3/4” floor plywood. I did however mitigate things a bit using a military discount. I think RV... maybe took some of what I said out of context. I’m not too proficient at getting my point across legibly at times in these forums. My fault.
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Re: What is making lumber prices go up
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What is making the lumber prices keep rising. The price for a sheet of 7/16 OSB was at $23.85 2 weeks ago and now it sets at $29.15 a sheet. The timber price to make theOSB is around 3 dollars a ton to the land owner, so it sounds like price gouging to me. SUPPLY & DEMAND !!! w
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Re: What is making lumber prices go up
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Well 330, I do “know” that I just paid 31.00 per 16’ 2x10 floor joist, 5.79 per precut stud, 6.57 for simple 8’ Studs, well over 2 dollars a foot for lineal 2x4. 33.00 for tongue and groove 3/4” floor plywood. I did however mitigate things a bit using a military discount. I think RV... maybe took some of what I said out of context. I’m not too proficient at getting my point across legibly at times in these forums. My fault.
Osky RV Lol
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Re: What is making lumber prices go up
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Osky, it’s fine to “doubt”, that is your take on things. Doubt is not “know” and there are many articles pertaining to tariffs and the cost being passed to consumers. You could take a little time to read up on it, then you could take your doubt and solidify it into a “know”. I’m not saying they are solely to blame for your higher prices but they’re factoring in big time. To not acknowledge that is either ignorant or arrogant, or both. There goes another Canadian telling an American he's Ignorant or Arrogant. Isn't it Ironic, or should I say Ignorant & Arrogant of a typical Canadian attitude. Too Funny. walleyed
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Re: What is making lumber prices go up
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Osky, it’s fine to “doubt”, that is your take on things. Doubt is not “know” and there are many articles pertaining to tariffs and the cost being passed to consumers. You could take a little time to read up on it, then you could take your doubt and solidify it into a “know”. I’m not saying they are solely to blame for your higher prices but they’re factoring in big time. To not acknowledge that is either ignorant or arrogant, or both. There goes another Canadian telling an American he's Ignorant or Arrogant. Isn't it Ironic, or should I say Ignorant & Arrogant of a typical Canadian attitude. Too Funny. walleyed It could indeed be arrogant of me walleyed, but it’s not ignorant.believing the US is self sufficient in raw materials is ignorant.
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