Re: Big bang question
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Mars doesnt have an atmosphere of any consequence. Its atmosphere got blown away by the "solar winds" when it lost its electromagnetic field. Earth could lose its electromagnetic field. so how would adding greenhouse gasses to a 90 plus percent saturated atmosphere change the fact that it has no magnetosphere? It wouldnt. Mars is uninhabitable.Except in a bubble.Even then cosmik radiation striking the surface due to no atmosphere would riddle you with cancer in a couple years. You would have a better chance inhabiting the deep ocean.
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Re: Big bang question
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the "plan" for Mars is probably to live in the Martian underground lava tubes, which are huge because of the low gravity. That shields you from the cosmic radiation. the polar ice caps would be used for sources of drinking water, water for growing plants,(the Martian soil is poisonous to humans), and would be separated into Hydrogen and Oxygen for power and fuel. The only consensus in science that I am aware of is that at some time Earth will become uninhabitable. Asteroid impact, solar flare, super volcano eruptions, nuclear war, and if none of those happen, eventually in some million years our Sun will go kablooey and we will melt right before we incinerate. So to insure the survival of mankind we need to get off the Earth and colonize other planets in and out of our solar system. The moon and Mars are going to be staging areas for this. If you believe in either Divine Creation or Evolution, you must still admit we are curious little buggers, who will want to get out there, either to survive or just to see what's out there. Mark- I do not claim to be an expert in the scriptures or scrolls, but is there any exclusionary clause in them that would deny the possibility that on the eighth day God started again somewhere else?
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Re: Big bang question
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As long as the " something from nothing " brigade throw thermodynamics, entropy and evolution all in one pot and call it the same, there will never be a constructive discussion on the matter. Thats just my two cents and to some here its probably worth less than that.
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Re: Big bang question
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Judging me without even knowing me. Nice.
So, what makes you think he's judging you? I know being in church does me good. He doesn't know me from the next guy, yet thinks that church would do me some good. That would imply that he thinks I am not a good person. I don't need church to know right from wrong. So it's okay for you to judge his intentions, but nobody should judge yours. Got it.
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Re: Big bang question
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I wonder how long before some ejit starts a nuclear war. I say one or two more generations max.
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Re: Big bang question
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First some say "you religious can't accept science." When we do submit our theology position as one including science, then up jumps the same group to say "why can't you religious keep religion outta science?" Y'all sound like liberals to be quite honest. Some people have different beliefs than y'all do. That's all.
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Blessings, Mark
Theology is dogma; science is progression. Creationism is not science, Mark, no matter how you dress it up and try to make it dance on strings. If you aren't representing creationism by your above post, I've misinterpreted it and apologize. Science strives to answer questions like who, what, when, why, and how. You insist you know the answer to the who question even before we start our observations and analysis. Science doesn't presume answers, and is skeptical of presumed answers offered by others. Especially when the answers offered are entirely based on hearsay, or secondary, evidence. Take away one book, and what does your religion rest on? Darwinist evolution is well demonstrated through various branches of science, including morphology, microbiology, and the molecular (DNA) evidence. Darwinism was accepted in science even before DNA analysis came along to confirm it. Jim
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Re: Big bang question
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First some say "you religious can't accept science." When we do submit our theology position as one including science, then up jumps the same group to say "why can't you religious keep religion outta science?" Y'all sound like liberals to be quite honest. Some people have different beliefs than y'all do. That's all.
Your witness counsellor.
Blessings, Mark
Theology is dogma; science is progression. Creationism is not science, Mark, no matter how you dress it up and try to make it dance on strings. If you aren't representing creationism by your above post, I've misinterpreted it and apologize. Science strives to answer questions like who, what, when, why, and how. You insist you know the answer to the who question even before we start our observations and analysis. Science doesn't presume answers, and is skeptical of presumed answers offered by others. Especially when the answers offered are entirely based on hearsay, or secondary, evidence. Take away one book, and what does your religion rest on? Darwinist evolution is well demonstrated through various branches of science, including morphology, microbiology, and the molecular (DNA) evidence. Darwinism was accepted in science even before DNA analysis came along to confirm it. Jim As a creationist I can agree with everything in the above statement. "Creationism is not science" (note the "ism" on the end of Creation). "Science strives to answer questions". Within those questions can be Evolution? God? etc.. "Darwinist evolution" is seen in also sorts of changes that have are are taking place in living things. It doesn't answer where life originated though.
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Re: Big bang question
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I'll not ridicule it because it's about 10 falsehoods cloaked in humanistic wonder. Oh and Creationism is science. You just haven't kept current this century counsellor. The many PhD's that submit research on it exhibit at all the major science conventions now. You should attend a science convention to see the secularists and religious collaborate. There is rich debate which is what science is.
And Darwin has lost so much luster, most notably when another science (psychology), begun by Freud, Adler, and others began insisting in the 19th and certainly into the 20th century that most, if not all science, is based on a person's belief system - amide the 19th century observation and repeatability definitions.
A point: Theology in Catholicism has dogma. Doctrine is the statement of the Protestants and Eastern Orthodoxy & some of the Roman Catholic tenets.
Blessings and Happy 2021. Mark
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Re: Big bang question
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So it's okay for you to judge his intentions, but nobody should judge yours. Got it.
Both of you have judged me. Is that what your god would want?
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Re: Big bang question
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^^^^. I don't know about judging JJ, but I believe one TMan'er was offering that you come across rather blunt. At last on a keyboard. You may be honeysuckle in person.
And about this judging "thing." We all judge. All of us.
Researchers tell us that within 7 seconds we "judge" someone we meet. We are all judging creatures to our core. With that said;
The theology of the biblical texts about "judge not lest ye be judged" is used so far out of context that some Christians and ^^^^^^ most unbelievers now use these texts to judge.
The proper context of the biblical contexts God would have us know is that when it comes to judging.... Start in your own lawn first. And keep mowing because the home turf usually needs mowing day after day after day. Don't worry about the neighbors lawn. Keep an eye on you.
Blessings, Mark
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