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Coyotes and 6mm creedmoore #7116392
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Anybody find a semi fur friendly bullet for it yet ??


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Re: Coyotes and 6mm creedmoore [Re: red mt] #7116427
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I never shot a 6.5 I have killed a LOT of coyotes with a 270 shooting 130 grain sierra boat tails. Exit wound looks horrible when you pick up the coyote. Skin it and toss the skin in a washing machine. Then flesh. That 270 left a tear about 4 inchs long to be sewed back up. Most of the time its not even found by the grader. If the rest of the coyote is good that exit hole is very repairable. Hit the front half of a coyote with a 270 you dont have to look for it.

Today I use a 22-250 with NOSLER 55 grain ballistic tips.


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Re: Coyotes and 6mm creedmoore [Re: red mt] #7116493
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Pick a bullet that will give you a small hole. Danny, do those ballistic tips exit all the time?

Re: Coyotes and 6mm creedmoore [Re: red mt] #7116497
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no. often they do not. if you hit high or low they make a real mess. have about a softball size spot you need to hit. about the same place you would shoot a broadside bear only on a coyote


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Re: Coyotes and 6mm creedmoore [Re: red mt] #7116563
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6mm Creedmoors are usually made for long range shooting and heavy for caliber bullets. Heavy for caliber bullets require fast twist or fast speeds at slower twist. In other words a 6mm Creedmoor is best for shooting paper and deer sized animals. It should flatten coyotes but you’ll have to learn to sew if you use one for them.


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Re: Coyotes and 6mm creedmoore [Re: red mt] #7116566
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Re: Coyotes and 6mm creedmoore [Re: red mt] #7116578
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Is it a stretch it out a long ways gun your looking for Red?

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Re: Coyotes and 6mm creedmoore [Re: red mt] #7116590
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i shot coyotes with my 270 cause thats what i had. kids were little and expensive. i couldnt justify spending the money on a new caliber. My mossberg 12 gauge, 10-22 , and that 270 were enough guns to hunt anything I wanted to.


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Re: Coyotes and 6mm creedmoore [Re: red mt] #7116617
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6mm Creedmoore is just a fancy name for a 234 Winchester. Find what works for folks in the 234 and use those.


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Re: Coyotes and 6mm creedmoore [Re: Osky] #7116629
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Originally Posted by Osky
Is it a stretch it out a long ways gun your looking for Red?

Osky


Yes sir, kind of a deer antelope wolf gun and a 500 yrd.plus gun for stubborn coyotes after I get done trapping mostly in springtime work. But if there was a bullet somewhere that shot well enough on coyotes I might shot 1 or 2 when traveling around checking traps.


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Re: Coyotes and 6mm creedmoore [Re: John C] #7116647
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Originally Posted by John C
6mm Creedmoors are usually made for long range shooting and heavy for caliber bullets. Heavy for caliber bullets require fast twist or fast speeds at slower twist. In other words a 6mm Creedmoor is best for shooting paper and deer sized animals. It should flatten coyotes but you’ll have to learn to sew if you use one for them.

Yes sir thank you sewing is just part of it I do ok ,, I always liked the 6mm and 243 kids killed alot of elk when they were younger with 243 but 6mm creedmoore may be the ticket at some ranges. I was just throwing it out there to see what everybody might already have tried.
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Re: Coyotes and 6mm creedmoore [Re: red mt] #7116661
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You can push a 55gr bullet around 4k fps in a 243. I'm sure you can do the same with a 6mm cm. May not get an exit would have to try and see.

Or go the other way and go heavy for cal non expanding bullet.

My 260 with 120 gr amax is not fur friendly. Half dollar to grapefruit size exits. Depending on how much bone is hit.

7mm08 with 139 interlock quarter to half dollar size exits.
But you dont get any spinners and flippers with them like with a .223 especially when range increases. They drop with maybe one kick or twitch of the tail.

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Re: Coyotes and 6mm creedmoore [Re: Providence Farm] #7116692
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
You can push a 55gr bullet around 4k fps in a 243. I'm sure you can do the same with a 6mm cm. May not get an exit would have to try and see.

Or go the other way and go heavy for cal non expanding bullet.

My 260 with 120 gr amax is not fur friendly. Half dollar to grapefruit size exits. Depending on how much bone is hit.

7mm08 with 139 interlock quarter to half dollar size exits.
But you dont get any spinners and flippers with them like with a .223 especially when range increases. They drop with maybe one kick or twitch of the tail.

Thank you thinking of going heavier non expanding at time. Just places to start .


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Re: Coyotes and 6mm creedmoore [Re: red mt] #7116698
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Originally Posted by red mt
Anybody find a semi fur friendly bullet for it yet ??




What you want Red, is the 22 Redline.



http://coyotestuff.com/the-220-redline-aka-22-saum-part-1/

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Re: Coyotes and 6mm creedmoore [Re: 3togo] #7116713
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try an accubond, will exit but not as violent as the BT's, I've tried the 55 gr BT's from a 6mm ppc on foxes, it successfully turns them inside out.
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Re: Coyotes and 6mm creedmoore [Re: red mt] #7116723
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Try a 22 hornet on those fox with a 40 grain nosler and 10.5 grains of imr4227. A very light load but great accuracy in my rifle. If I start speeding it up groups get bigger. Really shines on red fox. Very little damage.

I shot a red with my 22-250.......once


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Re: Coyotes and 6mm creedmoore [Re: red mt] #7116727
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I tried the ballistic tips when they first came out in my 243. Too many exits you could stick your fist in on coyotes. Went back to heavier jacketed bullets. I would think with the 6.5 you wouldn't need much expansion to kill coyotes properly.

Re: Coyotes and 6mm creedmoore [Re: Marty B] #7116732
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Originally Posted by Marty B
Originally Posted by red mt
Anybody find a semi fur friendly bullet for it yet ??




What you want Red, is the 22 Redline.



http://coyotestuff.com/the-220-redline-aka-22-saum-part-1/


Marty,, SH has tried to talk me into a 22-6mm already it looks to me I might have to go back start reloading again .


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Re: Coyotes and 6mm creedmoore [Re: Ridge Runner1960] #7116734
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Originally Posted by Ridge Runner1960
try an accubond, will exit but not as violent as the BT's, I've tried the 55 gr BT's from a 6mm ppc on foxes, it successfully turns them inside out.
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I believe that or a similar type bullet the way to go myself
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