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Chainsaw guys #7128588
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I was running my ms290 today and it died, figured it was out of gas. Checked the gas it was low but not empty went ahead and topped it off and then tried to start it. It wouldn’t start but would turn over. Then something clicked and I was no longer able to pull the rope.

What say you?

Re: Chainsaw guys [Re: Michael Lippold] #7128611
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Only time something like that happened to me, it was on a 029. a part of the muffler had broken off and was in the engine. Long shot...

Re: Chainsaw guys [Re: Michael Lippold] #7128632
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broken ring, obstruction ect

pull the muffler and see if you cans see anything

the 290 isn't a traditional case and Jug so it is some different to repair.

https://www.baileysonline.com/nwp-s...39-ms-290-310-390-chainsaws-sbn-390.html

they make some decent little cameras that you connect to your smart phone and can look in through the spark plug hole now also.

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Re: Chainsaw guys [Re: chicken1] #7128684
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Originally Posted by chicken1
Only time something like that happened to me, it was on a 029. a part of the muffler had broken off and was in the engine. Long shot...


Interesting you say that I have heard a little rattle in my muffler

Re: Chainsaw guys [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7128687
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Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
broken ring, obstruction ect

pull the muffler and see if you cans see anything

the 290 isn't a traditional case and Jug so it is some different to repair.

https://www.baileysonline.com/nwp-s...39-ms-290-310-390-chainsaws-sbn-390.html

they make some decent little cameras that you connect to your smart phone and can look in through the spark plug hole now also.


Thanks Pete, I’ll pop the muffler off tomorow and see what I can find

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A ring could be caught in a port.


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Re: Chainsaw guys [Re: Michael Lippold] #7128768
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Pull the side cases and see if engine turns.
Muffler screen plugged I'd check next.





Re: Chainsaw guys [Re: Michael Lippold] #7128779
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Pop off the jug and see what damage is done if the crank is not involved it should be savable. Get the gaskets new parts and put it back together.


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Re: Chainsaw guys [Re: Michael Lippold] #7128944
01/09/21 09:42 PM
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Check your plug. I had the end of a plug break once. Hope you didn't ruin the cylinder. Bound up is seldom good.


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Re: Chainsaw guys [Re: Michael Lippold] #7129034
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I would be looking at the starter rope and mechanism before tearing into the block.

Re: Chainsaw guys [Re: Michael Lippold] #7129056
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I was running my son's near new Husqvarna see feral years ago, and after shutting it off, as I went to,lay it down, it tipped over on its side and I heard a "clunk". After gasising it up, I went to start it and it was froze up.

We pulled the head and slipped the cylinder off and found out the the wrist pin has slipped into one of the ports....... NO WRIST PIN CLIP INSTALLED.

Cylinder perfect, no piston damage, and that saw's piston just stopped at the perfect place that when the saw tipped slide ways, the wrist pin slipped into the port. What are the chances of that?

My son took the saw to,the dealer and Husqvarna replaced the piston/cylinder/wrist pin/clip assembly. No recall, but they were aware of the issues with certain models.

If it died running and no noise,,I would check,the head gasket.


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Re: Chainsaw guys [Re: Michael Lippold] #7129139
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Pull the rope mechanism and look around the coil and flywheel. Had a coil bolt back out and hang in the flywheel once


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Re: Chainsaw guys [Re: Michael Lippold] #7129183
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I plan to pull the cover off where the rope mechanism is tomorow, see if somethings wrong there and if not I will pull the muffler and the spark plug and see if I can spot anything. Thanks for all the suggestions guys

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Lots of used parts on eBay to rebuild a saw.


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So I pulled the spark plug today and think I have found atleast the cause of the problem....

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What steps should I take now

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With the plug out will it now turn over?

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Is there a hole in the top of the piston? Will the motor turn over?


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Re: Chainsaw guys [Re: Michael Lippold] #7132616
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With the plug out it still won’t turn over, can’t pull the rope

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Pull the jug take the pull cord off and try it off of the saw.


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Something in the cylinder hit that plug. Could be apiece from the muffler. Or a broken ring. Take the muffler off. See if you can see the piston. Any visible deep scratches or gouges. I think you are most likely looking at a new jug, piston and rings. If the saw has a lot of hours on it, may be time for a new one. Sell the old one on ebay for parts or repair. May be surprised what you'd get for it.

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