I didn't read all gazillion pages of the previous thread on the subject, but, I am looking for the "secret" to getting a lighter white sandwich bread with a softer crust.

I've tried a few recipes and just can't get it right. yeast or no yeast, they all seem heavy, and have all had a tough crust.

What do I need to do? I always use a 9x5 loaf pan, one glass the other teflon coated metal.

Google King Author Bread Baking....plenty of recipes there

A couple of things I did to improve my early bread: knead it thoroughly until it passes the window pane test (can be stretched between fingers thin enough to see through), and prove it a little longer and slower (room temp rather than in a warm spot). Also, try baking in a glass pan rather than metal pan. When the pans come out of the oven, tip them on one long side for a couple minutes, then onto the other long side for 2 more, the dump loaves out of pans. You could also then try letting them cool slower by draping a dish towel over the loaves as they cool. Finally, when they're still warm, smear some butter on a folded paper towel, then wipe top of crusts. The tops will then look a bit shiny. Hope one of my hints help. I love baking bread.

Solid advice. They also have a very good youtube channel.

If you go to youtube and search tangzhong milk bread recipes or milk loaves . These are the ultimate in light fluffy white bread that I know of the tangzhong is the recipe my wife settled on this summer this summer she went through 4 fifty lb bags of flour she did alot of expieramenting.

Rhonda uses King Author Bread flour to make her bread. She cheats though, she uses a bread maker. Here's a loaf she made this evening.

When it comes to bread makers I dont mind em lap sized w/ red hair and freckles just so long as they have enough "issues" to keep it interesting

Couldn't have said it better, my own self.

Wife uses one of those bread making machines. Makes a funny looking loaf. I like the looks of Nessy’s loaves better.

I use this method from Teresa to make overnight sourdough........mine looks like it on the outside, my holes are not that big. Wet, sticky dough......half dozen flop and glops........then wait until morning and bake it. I don't use the basket......just proof in a mixing bowl, then let it rise on parchment paper.

Pullman loaf pans make great sandwich bread if you’re looking for light crust and square slices.

I made some today.

If you want to use yeast, this one is as easy as it gets.........

Wife give her bread maker to good will, she went back to her old way. Easier and makes good bread every time. Not into a lot of different breads.

Me to...

We have been making biscuits more than bread lately. Simple and fast and good