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Re: Ammo Concern
[Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE]
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01/11/21 06:53 PM
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Mike in A-town
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This is all speculation on my part, but it bears a little consideration...
You can't produce ammo if there isn't any powder to put in cartridges. Most of the powder we use is imported... I believe a lot of it comes from Australia... and they've been locked down for a while.
And a lot of the major ammo manufacturers have contracts to make ammo for the military and Uncle Sam gets priority. So if you're short on powder then most of what you make will probably go to the government and the civilian market will get shorted.
Having said all that...
I went to Tulsa Thursday to buy powder... One of the places I buy from said they are getting 3000 lbs. of powder a week and they can't keep it on the shelves... So tin foil hat aside... Supply is not keeping up with demand.
So is it excess demand? Or is supply being bottlenecked?
I think it's both.
Mike 3K pounds of powder a week roughly figuring at 6gr for 9mm that could be 3.5 million rounds 25gr in 223 840K rounds 43gr in 308 488K rounds 50gr in 30-06 420K rounds even rough figuring pistol and rifle say it is 1 to 1.5 million rounds that is a week for one place when where all done with this we will be looking at more guns and ammo in US houses than any point ever before in history. Comforting numbers Pete... If that powder is indeed being used and not being placed on Gunbroker or similar sites and sold at outrageous markups. Mike
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Re: Ammo Concern
[Re: Turkeyeggsaver]
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01/11/21 06:59 PM
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Marty B
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Re: Ammo Concern
[Re: Turkeyeggsaver]
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01/11/21 07:27 PM
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Steven 49er
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Primers are to be found if you beat the bush and live near major retailers like cabela's or Scheels. Dome days are different.
Today I picked up 400 small rifle cci at a Scheels locale. Yesterday I got 200 small rifle magnum at cabela's
The Scheels I was at today surprised me in that the had somewhat of a selection of different loaded calibers. I think I'll stop in the morning and get another 400
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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Re: Ammo Concern
[Re: Turkeyeggsaver]
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01/11/21 07:32 PM
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Re: Ammo Concern
[Re: Mike in A-town]
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01/11/21 07:39 PM
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Comforting numbers Pete... If that powder is indeed being used and not being placed on Gunbroker or similar sites and sold at outrageous markups.
Mike
well I figure if it isn't used right away and even if people profit on it some it takes money from people willing to pay it so they can't buy up even more and it puts it eventually into the hands of someone who will load it. even if it goes into some guys safe for 20 years it is likely to resurface and be used , never know 20 years from now in 2041 I might get a deal on it at a yard sale when he has kicked the bucket and his wife is selling it for what he told her he paid for it 20 dollars a pound and 25 dollars a brick of primers. it stinks I am not shooting much because I can't replace what I shoot but the silver lining is it is putting billions of rounds into private ownership.
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Re: Ammo Concern
[Re: Turkeyeggsaver]
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01/11/21 07:39 PM
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What is going on with the ammo? I’m hearing there is no supply and plenty of demand. This is worst than last time IMO. Turkeyeggsaver Van Winkle? 
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Re: Ammo Concern
[Re: Turkeyeggsaver]
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01/11/21 07:46 PM
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Don't hate on me guys, but today at lunch break I ran into Walmart for furnace filters. Cruised through Sporting goods and the empty ammo case was empty as it has been for weeks. Stock cart sitting there with several cases of shotgun ammo and 1 case of Winchester, 333 round boxes of .22 LR hollow points. I got out to the truck and realized I forgot furnace filters.
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Re: Ammo Concern
[Re: cmj]
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01/11/21 08:43 PM
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Mike in A-town
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No shortage of powder around here. But almost no primers. We might have to start a Farmer's Market and swap some stuff. Lol Mike
One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.
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Re: Ammo Concern
[Re: Turkeyeggsaver]
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01/11/21 08:44 PM
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I have been able to find anything I want with no price gouging. Just not in large amounts or every time I want some. I wouldn't be able to look myself in the eye if I put anything on gun broker. I think the guys bidding that stuff up just sit in their bunker and shop online. Face to face friends and acquittances is a good way to find stuff. If you got a minute and your near a store that sells ammo powder or whatever stop in and see what they got.
#1 thing is don't buy at those inflated prices. Its gotten crazee
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Ammo Concern
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01/11/21 08:50 PM
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Marty
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Don't hate on me guys, but today at lunch break I ran into Walmart for furnace filters. Cruised through Sporting goods and the empty ammo case was empty as it has been for weeks. Stock cart sitting there with several cases of shotgun ammo and 1 case of Winchester, 333 round boxes of .22 LR hollow points. I got out to the truck and realized I forgot furnace filters. Nice! I got 400 CCI stingers...and 600 CCI target. @ the gun show over the weekend I saw a few boxes of rifle primers sell for $150 per 1000.
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Re: Ammo Concern
[Re: Turkeyeggsaver]
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01/11/21 08:55 PM
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danny clifton
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I gave a friend of my wife a box of 50 22 rat shot cartridges. She is scared to death of snakes. The other day she brought me a hundred rounds aguila 40 grain long rifles. No clue where she got it. Wouldn't tell me what she paid. I hope it wasn't a whole bunch.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Ammo Concern
[Re: Turkeyeggsaver]
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01/11/21 09:04 PM
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Got some 357 bird shot the other day, haven't seen those for years and only had 1 round left.
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