Re: Is 6.5 creedmore better than 270
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stay with the 270 nothing wrong with it
they are different tools for different jobs with some overlap
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Re: Is 6.5 creedmore better than 270
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6.5 creed eldx 143gr .264 Hornady precision hunter ammo 270win eldx 145gr .277 Hornady precision hunter ammo you have the gun for hunting , yes you loose some ballistic coefficient with the .013 larger bullet diameter but you more than make up for it in case capacity. at hunting distances the 270 wins in flatter and harder hitting however if your planning to take up long range taregt shooting and want a round that you can shoot all day 6.5 is the gun for you. the overlap is that the 6.5 will take game , as well as targets but you can see why you might just want to buy some more ammo for your 270 and keep hunting with it
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Re: Is 6.5 creedmore better than 270
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how do you know a guy shot his buck with a 6.5 creedmore ? just wait 20 seconds he'll tell you.
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Re: Is 6.5 creedmore better than 270
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If the 6.5 will launch a 130 grain bullet at 28-2900 fps and the 270 will launch a 130 grain bullet at 3000-3100 fps, you need to compare ballistic coefficient of the bullets and see which is faster at 500 yards.
I think you will find there isn't lot of difference. Especially if you shot long bullets like barnes tsx. If your hunting deer, not shooting long range competition, there is definitely no reason to switch. Even if you are going pro in long distance shooting contests, you will win as many matchs with your 270.
Magazine writers need stuff to write about and gun makers need to keep selling more guns. You really should not need to know much more about magazine articles.
When we get back to normal where firearms are concerned, you will see a new gun writer darling get talked up.
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Re: Is 6.5 creedmore better than 270
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I haven't jumped on the 6.5 CM bandwagon yet... Mainly because I'm a 30 caliber guy... And I like decades of proven performance.
The only thing that might steer me to one of the new "boutique" chamberings is powder consumption... Does the 6.5 eat less powder to perform similar to the .270?
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Re: Is 6.5 creedmore better than 270
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how do you know a guy shot his buck with a 6.5 creedmore ? just wait 20 seconds he'll tell you. Mike
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Re: Is 6.5 creedmore better than 270
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Thanks I just looked up ballistics and couldn’t see what all the fuss is about? Other than short action in 6.5 the 270 seemed flatter Plus before this Covid crap 270 shells were cheap and every where online they both have about zero ammo but your a lot more likely to find a couple boxes of 270 on a gas station, hardware store , or bait shop shelf still there from the past. the two are about dead even at a half mile 880 yards for energy and velocity then 6.5 pulls ahead or rather doesn't slow down as fast. however 270 is still flatter because it was loosing less altitude until a half mile the thing is your not generally hunting at a half mile.
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Re: Is 6.5 creedmore better than 270
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The 143 gr ELD-X in 6.5 has a G1 BC of .623 The 145 gr ELD-X in .270 has a G1 BC of .536 That's a decent difference. But BC doesnt really mean much at 400 yds or less... Which is where most hunting shots happen. I'm with Pete, if you plan on ringing steel at extreme range it might be worth trading up. To put meat in the freezer? Stay with your .270 Unless you just want a new gun... And that's cool too. Mike
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Re: Is 6.5 creedmore better than 270
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I haven't jumped on the 6.5 CM bandwagon yet... Mainly because I'm a 30 caliber guy... And I like decades of proven performance.
The only thing that might steer me to one of the new "boutique" chamberings is powder consumption... Does the 6.5 eat less powder to perform similar to the .270?
Mike yes , if your loading a thousand rounds for targets your definitely going to see a powder savings around 10 grains per round for every 700 rounds you use about 1 less pound of powder some of the dyed in the wool 308 shooters have made the switch now , the scores against a 308 the 6.5 has an advantage 308 is a 1000 yard round and 6.5 is a 1200 yard round that much less reading the wind if you hunt at <200 yards the 308 will do just fine all day long
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Re: Is 6.5 creedmore better than 270
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well 37 grains of powder in the 6.5 using imr4895 and 46.9 max in the 270 according to hodgdon online data.
so 189 rounds from a pound of powder in the creedmoor and 149 with the 270. for me, 40 bullets per pound of powder isn't enough to want a new rifle.
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Re: Is 6.5 creedmore better than 270
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The 143 gr ELD-X in 6.5 has a G1 BC of .623 The 145 gr ELD-X in .270 has a G1 BC of .536 That's a decent difference. But BC doesnt really mean much at 400 yds or less... Which is where most hunting shots happen. I'm with Pete, if you plan on ringing steel at extreme range it might be worth trading up. To put meat in the freezer? Stay with your .270 Unless you just want a new gun... And that's cool too. Mike it is a decent difference but when 880 is where they are the same velocity and energy but 6.5 has given up about 2 feet in elevation drop already
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Re: Is 6.5 creedmore better than 270
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7mm 08 beats them both as far as Im concerned. With the 6.5 enjoying so much popularity lately my guess is that ammunition for it will be almost impossible to find. You'd think so... But my local guy stocks the crap out of 6.5 components... Only 30 cal bullets he stocks are 168 Match Kings and A-Max... Which is fine for my 308... But if I want to stretch the legs on my 300WM I gotta drive to Tulsa for high BC stuff. Guess I shouldn't gripe... At least he has stuff. LOL Mike
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Re: Is 6.5 creedmore better than 270
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I like .270 alot, only reason I'm going 6.5 in my new gun is for the short action. Not calling you out Donner... Serious question... Why the preference for short action over long? I hear that so much and it just doesn't compute to me. Am I missing something? Mike
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Re: Is 6.5 creedmore better than 270
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I haven't jumped on the 6.5 CM bandwagon yet... Mainly because I'm a 30 caliber guy... And I like decades of proven performance.
The only thing that might steer me to one of the new "boutique" chamberings is powder consumption... Does the 6.5 eat less powder to perform similar to the .270?
Mike Cough But 6.5x55 cough cough
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Re: Is 6.5 creedmore better than 270
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I like .270 alot, only reason I'm going 6.5 in my new gun is for the short action. Not calling you out Donner... Serious question... Why the preference for short action over long? I hear that so much and it just doesn't compute to me. Am I missing something? Mike Getting a Titanium rifle, taking off every possible ounce I can. The shorter bolt throw is also nice but really I'm doing it for weight. 6.3 pounds for long action, 5.8 for short.
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