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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #6533070
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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #6534482
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Any word on the committee 49er? Did they come to their senses?

I hope folks continue to work to get folks to comment right up until the end.


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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #6534543
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Wimarshrat you going to the CC meeting this weekend?


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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: The Beav] #6534550
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Originally Posted by The Beav
Wimarshrat you going to the CC meeting this weekend?


Yes. Luckily it is just about in my back yard! Need a place to stay or something else?

Anyone that has an interesting in the annual convention and what happens, here is the agenda for the weekend. https://dnr.wi.gov/About/WCC/Documents/Agenda/2019/AgendaConvention2019.pdf


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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #6537848
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Looks like they extended the comment period on the delisting of wolves. Everyone can get a few more friends to comment.

The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service is extending by 60 days the public comment period on a proposed rule to remove the gray wolf from the List of Endangered and Threatened Wildlife under the Endangered Species Act.

The proposal to delist gray wolves is based on sound science, a thorough analysis of threats and how they have been alleviated, and the ongoing commitment and proven track record of states and tribes to continue managing for healthy wolf populations once delisted.

The Service is extending the comment period to allow all interested parties additional time to comment on the proposed rule. We will consider information and recommendations from all interested parties. We intend that any final action resulting from this proposal will be based on the best scientific and commercial data available and will be as accurate and as effective as possible. Our final determination will take into consideration all comments and any additional information we receive during the comment period.

In addition, we will hold one or more public hearings on our proposed rule and will provide additional information about these hearings in a future Federal Register notice.

The gray wolf joins the bald eagle, peregrine falcon, American alligator, brown pelican and 33 other species of animals and plants in U.S. states, territories and waters that have been brought back from the brink with the help of the ESA. Countless more have improved or stabilized.

The recovery of the gray wolf is attributable primarily to successful interagency cooperation. States continue to demonstrate their ability to effectively manage wolf populations that guarantee the long-term sustainability of the species. The regulatory mechanisms put in place by these partners will last beyond federal delisting of the wolf and will ensure the long-term survival of the species.

The public comment period on the proposed rule that published on March 15, 2019 will now close at midnight on July 15, 2019. Comments already submitted need not be resubmitted, as they will be fully considered in preparation of the final rule. Instructions on how to submit comments are provided at http://www.regulations.gov, Docket Number: FWS-HQ-ES-2018-0097. The Federal Register notice provides additional detailed information on how the public can submit written comments and information.

The proposed rule, comments and materials we receive, as well as supporting documentation, are available for public inspection on the docket.

More information is available online at: https://www.fws.gov/home/wolfrecovery/.


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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7133319
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Any of you going down to the Capitol tomorrow to push for a wolf season?

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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: WIMarshRAT] #7133368
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Originally Posted by WIMarshRAT
Any of you going down to the Capitol tomorrow to push for a wolf season?

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Hmmm.....Maybe I could think of some work excuse to get down to Dane county. Thanks for posting this.

Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7133374
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Good luck you guys. You can bet there will be plenty of pro-wolf people in attendance as well. They were at every MN wolf meeting I attended.


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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7133756
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I hope there is a good showing from sportsmen.


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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: WIMarshRAT] #7133764
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From perspective it would be good to find a "pro wolf" group or persons that understand the value and nature of managing the species. There are several places like Alaska, Canada etc. that have been harvesting wolves for generations with seasons, etc. I would think there should be several ecologists and biologists that can show the rationale and or the science and data as to how the species benefits from managed harvest. There are numerous examples of species that have benefited from managed harvest.

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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: bblwi] #7133875
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Originally Posted by bblwi
From perspective it would be good to find a "pro wolf" group or persons that understand the value and nature of managing the species. There are several places like Alaska, Canada etc. that have been harvesting wolves for generations with seasons, etc. I would think there should be several ecologists and biologists that can show the rationale and or the science and data as to how the species benefits from managed harvest. There are numerous examples of species that have benefited from managed harvest.

Bryce


a good a rational post, unfortunately in these times that is forbidden, only screaming and yelling allowed no matter how irrational your argument is.!! grin

Sadly there are extremists on both sides of this battle.
Lots of "sportsmen" that shout "the only good wolf is a dead wolf". I have seen that extreme position here and on other forums populated with so called "sportsmen".
On the other hand there are lots of "animal rights" activists that don't want any wolves shot trapped or even harassed.

Both positions are irrational and unfortunately harmful to the bigger picture which is ultimately what is best for the natural world in which the wolves live. This should be the starting point for a discussion that both groups agree on and start from.

Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7133910
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Good luck fellas. Just know that every looney tune wolf loving group will be in attendance and well organized. Emotion over science for them.


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Google “Yellowstone Wolf Packs” to see some really big packs.

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If you are feeding on elk and buffalo it takes more than one wolf!!!! Especially if they are not as large as the big far northern wolves.

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Google “Yellowstone Wolf Packs” to see some really big packs.

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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7134710
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I took the time to jot down my thoughts but unfortunately I couldn't make the hearing today. Good luck to those that could make it.


For the last year NRB, the department, and legislators knew delisting was going to happen. Instead of working together, they pointed fingers and refused to listen to each other. It's another example of our broken system where the other side couldn't possibly be right. Hopefully today's hearing isn't another example.

I have always supported holding a wolf season. The North American Model of Wildlife Conservation is responsible for the return of wolves to WI and being able to hold a season on a recovered population is a key milestone. It should be celebrated by all. We did it with fisher, otter, and even the lake sturgeon and those species now flourish with our highly regulated seasons.

Yet wolf management is a highly polarizing subject for many, but the good peoe.of this state have never shied away from working at bringing folks together and building the value of a resource. When season dates were causing challenges with other user groups, folks could have hidden behind state statue that dictated season start date.

Instead, the WTA along with residents of the state worked with WCC, NRB, the Department and legislators to offer two different questions on spring hearing questionnaire and ultimately supported the first Saturday in November opener. With the support of the public, those changes were signed by governor Walker in 2014(?). This is how it should work. Fix the problems!

When the department, legislators and NRB are ready to get to tackle wolf management in the state, I stand ready to help engage the public. I am not afraid to listen to differing opinions, learn from those opinions, and ensure wolf management is better for the residents of our state.


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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7134767
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For those that want to watch the hearing, you can do so here...
https://wiseye.org/2021/01/13/joint-committee-on-sporting-heritage/


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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7134792
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Thanks, watching now


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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7134880
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What's wrong with the WI DNR thats soooooo sad that they would'nt show up.The people o f WI pay there wages,as least they could show up,I say suspend them without pay,VERY VERY SAAAAAD,disgusting,wake up and grow a pair!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7134882
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The writing is on the wall on this deal.


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