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Setting traps where brush pile has been burnt #7135975
01/14/21 12:55 AM
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Ive heard they can be great locations for canines. Any opinions on this and what would be the best set to use?

Re: Setting traps where brush pile has been burnt [Re: blankenship] #7136068
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Read the sign. If they are wandering through there it could be productive. If they aren't it can be tough to get them to check it out. Regardless of some claims there isn't a lure that will bring them from a mile away. This time of year food base would be at the bottom of the list for me. Gland lure, urine at a scent post would be at the top.


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Re: Setting traps where brush pile has been burnt [Re: blankenship] #7136357
01/14/21 11:05 AM
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Can be are the key words. If they are actively using the area, by all means set it. I followed some coyote tracks into a burned down brush pile in a clear cut a few years ago. It was a fresh burn with just a few pieces of charred wood scattered about. No regrowth of any kind, just ashes, but I found a spot where the coyote or coyotes were creating a natural dirt hole. Not sure what they were digging there for but I darn sure bedded a trap there. Long story short, over about a week, I caught 3 coyotes at that set. After the first catch, I cleaned up the catch circle and reset, same trap, same trap bed and made it look as much like before as I could. After number three, the tracks in the ashes stopped.

I still trap that same property but the coyotes no longer show any interest in that location.


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Re: Setting traps where brush pile has been burnt [Re: blankenship] #7136362
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Throw a little bacon on top of the brushpile before you light it.

Re: Setting traps where brush pile has been burnt [Re: blankenship] #7136411
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If you want to bring coyotes in from miles, gather road kill deer and make a big bait pile. Offer to haul off dead calves, hogs whatever. If somebody offers you an old horse for free haul it out there and shoot it. Take the back straps. One for you to eat and one to make a prepared lure/bait. Start this spring. Everytime you get your hands on a dead animal put it in the same spot. This fall you will have a real honeyhole.


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Re: Setting traps where brush pile has been burnt [Re: QuietButDeadly] #7136420
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Originally Posted by QuietButDeadly
Can be are the key words. If they are actively using the area, by all means set it. I followed some coyote tracks into a burned down brush pile in a clear cut a few years ago. It was a fresh burn with just a few pieces of charred wood scattered about. No regrowth of any kind, just ashes, but I found a spot where the coyote or coyotes were creating a natural dirt hole. Not sure what they were digging there for but I darn sure bedded a trap there. Long story short, over about a week, I caught 3 coyotes at that set. After the first catch, I cleaned up the catch circle and reset, same trap, same trap bed and made it look as much like before as I could. After number three, the tracks in the ashes stopped.

I still trap that same property but the coyotes no longer show any interest in that location.

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Re: Setting traps where brush pile has been burnt [Re: blankenship] #7136442
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i caught 7 REDS, 1 skunk and 3 coons this year off one burnt pile before switching over to water. There is plenty of activity around it last weekend when I went back to look around. You can enhance the site by burning deer hair or bacon in a can to get out on the wind, then hide the can in the pile where you can reuse when needed. I made two projection type sets at this location.(call lure on a burn stump or branch). Urine application works very well on charred wood and retains the odor. I used similar sets out west, like a campfire set, very productive for gray and coyote in AZ and NM. If you have a spot on the south side of the spot, getting max sun put lure in a can, the can will heat up, retain heat and release more odor. most fox will approach from prevailing wind and burnt odor travel alot farther than most realize and last a long time also. you will also not the snow will melt faster on that side in the charcoaled area as the ground will not freeze as readily.

Re: Setting traps where brush pile has been burnt [Re: danny clifton] #7136448
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
If you want to bring coyotes in from miles, gather road kill deer and make a big bait pile. Offer to haul off dead calves, hogs whatever. If somebody offers you an old horse for free haul it out there and shoot it. Take the back straps. One for you to eat and one to make a prepared lure/bait. Start this spring. Everytime you get your hands on a dead animal put it in the same spot. This fall you will have a real honeyhole.

Check local laws before doing this.

Re: Setting traps where brush pile has been burnt [Re: henpecked1] #7136449
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Originally Posted by henpecked1
i caught 7 REDS, 1 skunk and 3 coons this year off one burnt pile before switching over to water. There is plenty of activity around it last weekend when I went back to look around. You can enhance the site by burning deer hair or bacon in a can to get out on the wind, then hide the can in the pile where you can reuse when needed. I made two projection type sets at this location.(call lure on a burn stump or branch). Urine application works very well on charred wood and retains the odor. I used similar sets out west, like a campfire set, very productive for gray and coyote in AZ and NM. If you have a spot on the south side of the spot, getting max sun put lure in a can, the can will heat up, retain heat and release more odor. most fox will approach from prevailing wind and burnt odor travel alot farther than most realize and last a long time also. you will also not the snow will melt faster on that side in the charcoaled area as the ground will not freeze as readily.

Great Information


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Re: Setting traps where brush pile has been burnt [Re: danny clifton] #7136470
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
If you want to bring coyotes in from miles, gather road kill deer and make a big bait pile. Offer to haul off dead calves, hogs whatever. If somebody offers you an old horse for free haul it out there and shoot it. Take the back straps. One for you to eat and one to make a prepared lure/bait. Start this spring. Everytime you get your hands on a dead animal put it in the same spot. This fall you will have a real honeyhole.



I have a wash out on my farm that gets the remnants of butchering and processing on my farm. Its has obvious trails leading to it and ribs an hide get drug out up to 50 yards away.

I put in 2 dirt holes by it and it produced two so far. I picked up a 3rd in a set 80 yards away.

I'm torn between picking up road kill and refreshing it every few weeks to keep them coming in and increase my catch. ( summer maybe not) But I also want to keep them away from my livestock primary the chickens, sheep and goats. Ya first world county hick problems.

Re: Setting traps where brush pile has been burnt [Re: blankenship] #7136476
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I regular burn brush piles at my place. Probably about a dozen a year. After I burn them there is nothing but bare soil covered in ash. I have never seen any animal activity in these burn areas. That is until I seed them, then turkeys and song birds will be scratching eat the seed.

Maybe my piles are burnt too thoroughly, there is nothing left, just ash.

Re: Setting traps where brush pile has been burnt [Re: blankenship] #7136529
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Up here there can be a problem with carcasses piled up. They will undoubtedly attract fox, coyotes, bobcats, skunks, fisher, coons etc. They also attract wolves. Last Fall a neighbor butchered about a dozen pigs and put all the guts etc. on the ground outside his fencing. This happened a week before our deer gun season. The wolves came and stayed in the area for 3 weeks. It was the worst deer season anybody can remember for anyone within 2 miles of that farm, myself included. More wolf tracks than deer tracks. Timing is everything.

Re: Setting traps where brush pile has been burnt [Re: danny clifton] #7136559
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[quote=danny clifton]. If somebody offers you an old horse for free haul it out there and shoot it. Take the back straps. One for you to eat.................. bout spit out my coffee right there

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Re: Setting traps where brush pile has been burnt [Re: blankenship] #7136655
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pretty good meat dale. i would bet 20 bucks you like it if you didnt know what it was


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Re: Setting traps where brush pile has been burnt [Re: danny clifton] #7136683
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
pretty good meat dale. i would bet 20 bucks you like it if you didnt know what it was

To be truthful I'm one of those guys that have eaten almost everything I've caught at least once. If I was at your house for dinner heck serve it up, I'm game!


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Re: Setting traps where brush pile has been burnt [Re: blankenship] #7136771
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I don’t know about old burns, but fresh burns down here are a critter magnet. Snakes even crawl to burns!

Re: Setting traps where brush pile has been burnt [Re: blankenship] #7136787
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I have great luck setting on outside edges of burns around here. I stay back a little from the edge or you get a bunch of sooty dirty coyotes to wash. Dirtholes with bait work for me.
Jim

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Re: Setting traps where brush pile has been burnt [Re: blankenship] #7136997
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Re: Setting traps where brush pile has been burnt [Re: blankenship] #7136999
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There should be burnt mice and gubs so a critter can come looking for a meal and a dirt hole at the edge like Jim mentioned might work well.

Up in the Flint Hills (where Yessir operates) they burn off huge spreads and I know lots of animals like to roll in the ash. Everything from coyotes to bison. I always assumed it gives them some relief from biting bugs like the hogs rubbing on telephone poles


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Re: Setting traps where brush pile has been burnt [Re: blankenship] #7137054
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Thanks for everyone's input . I'm going to take a closer look at them in morning. They was burnt in the spring last year

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