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Unintended Consequences Minimum Wage #7137945
01/15/21 11:44 AM
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I read that the proposal for raising the minimum wage to $ 15/hr also does away with the tipping minimum wage, currently at $ 2.13/hr. although I don't know of anyone around here paying that. If the typical waitress now getting $6/hr plus tips will now get $ 15/hr will anyone continue to tip at 15-20% of the bill? My wife stated emphatically that we won't and her word is sacred. LOL The price of meals will go up to cover the proprietors cost so less people will eat out. Tip income will go down. The higher wage rate will be verifiable and taxable. Some jobs will be lost. I don't see many winners here.

Re: Unintended Consequences Minimum Wage [Re: corky] #7137957
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Not a problem here in Michigan because eating in a restraunt is illegal.


Re: Unintended Consequences Minimum Wage [Re: corky] #7137960
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I won't go out to eat anymore.

Re: Unintended Consequences Minimum Wage [Re: corky] #7137964
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Great way to finish off any small business

Re: Unintended Consequences Minimum Wage [Re: corky] #7137970
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I agree that it was a problem to be worked on but a "one size fits all" approach will always mess things up.

I don't know all the details yet but can't believe restaurants nationwide could survive at $15 an hour. Lots would go.... even the big franchises.

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Re: Unintended Consequences Minimum Wage [Re: corky] #7137971
01/15/21 11:58 AM
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Or usher in more automation.

Re: Unintended Consequences Minimum Wage [Re: SNIPERB🦝] #7137990
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Originally Posted by SNIPERB🦝
Or usher in more automation.

Some of the big franchises are already on it. McDonald's is working on a burger flipping robot. They have already installed ordering kiosks in many places to eliminate a cashier position.


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Re: Unintended Consequences Minimum Wage [Re: corky] #7137991
01/15/21 12:14 PM
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They will use less servers and the service will decline. No one can cook better than my wife! Going out is a brake for her.


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Re: Unintended Consequences Minimum Wage [Re: corky] #7137998
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Wait a second are you saying the govt is too stupid to even be a good parasite?

Re: Unintended Consequences Minimum Wage [Re: corky] #7138004
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If them getting paid more doesnít effect the price of the food at said establishment I will tip the same



Re: Unintended Consequences Minimum Wage [Re: corky] #7138060
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Just when this pandemic is causing hundreds thousands of businesses to close up and people losing their jobs, they do something this stupid. My nephew employs about 12 people in his company. He said he will lay off 1/2 of them permanently if this becomes the law.

Re: Unintended Consequences Minimum Wage [Re: corky] #7138062
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Maybe someday they will realize some people are just not worth 15.00hr.One should have a skill for such money.The only thing they are doing is driving the cost of everything up.


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Re: Unintended Consequences Minimum Wage [Re: corky] #7138064
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For years here, every McDonalds uses ordering kiosks. No counter help for ordering.

In 13 years I have eaten at a McDonalds three times, (while travelling through Paris in a train station), and every single time was horrible. Cold food, mushy fries and crappy service. Yet Europe accounts for alot of their profits.

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Re: Unintended Consequences Minimum Wage [Re: corky] #7138070
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When they raised it in Portland I had been making the top union wage for local p and d at 16.75. I was pulling doubles and triples. Most of us quit.

Re: Unintended Consequences Minimum Wage [Re: corky] #7138071
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The argument is that you can't make a living on minimum wage. The reality is many minimum wage jobs aren't intended to provide a living.

Re: Unintended Consequences Minimum Wage [Re: corky] #7138073
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What pays more to the government in taxes in taxable income 15 a hour or 2.15? Also employer will be paying more employee tax. How much do you think cash tips get claimed. I would say just enough. If a tip is paid on a credit card little harder not to claim. I think most folks waiting tables donít want the change. Do the math on tips if your waiting three four tables at a time. Not much incentive also to wait on more than one table at a time at 15 a hour. This assuming no one tips after the 15 a hour hike. Local gas station/one stop just put in 4 self check out lines. A little up front investment but big return on investment with less employees. Everybody checking out used the self check out.

Re: Unintended Consequences Minimum Wage [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7138075
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Originally Posted by Grandpa Trapper
Just when this pandemic is causing hundreds thousands of businesses to close up and people losing their jobs, they do something this stupid. My nephew employs about 12 people in his company. He said he will lay off 1/2 of them permanently if this becomes the law.

That's what these employees don't understand. If a business has a labor budget of say, $100 an hour, and they have 10 employees at $10 an hour, they're on budget. If they have to raise it to $15 an hour, some employees are gonna have to go, or the business closes, and everybody loses their job. Or, the rates go up and customers quit using the business and it goes under. Minimum wage workers are not gaining anything with this, because the cost of everything is going to go up

Re: Unintended Consequences Minimum Wage [Re: corky] #7138097
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Is government setting the price of labor Socialism? I wonder how long this has been going on. Did it start in 2008?


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Re: Unintended Consequences Minimum Wage [Re: corky] #7138106
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a friend and his brother owned a Pizza place in ILL , Jan 1 2020 ILL raised the minimum to $10 with an additional dollar each Jan 1 till they reached $15 dollars in 2025

they closed shop knowing very well what their numbers were and both became long term substitute teachers. then covid hit.


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Re: Unintended Consequences Minimum Wage [Re: corky] #7138118
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As stated above Min Wage was never meant to be a "living wage" what ever that is supposed to be.

You would starve to death in a large metropolitan area on $15/hr. Some rural areas you could be moderately comfortable.

I pay $15 cash for spot labor when I need it, works for them works for me. Although they need to produce, to come back. Some have,some haven't

I think the $15/hr is intended to eliminate as much unreported income as possible. Not to help the down trodden underachievers.There are just not that many min wage jobs anymore.

EX. A local grocery chain has had a sign out for a couple years now, starting wage is $14.65
Fast food services are 12 + to start in this area
Even Mom & Pop grocery's are at 10 +

Firmly believe it's mostly about taxable income

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