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Question rat pelts #7138762
01/15/21 08:01 PM
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I ask this long ago, took some rats off boards today, use glove fjnger to try shine up pelt with oil residue on pelt, dry out, not enough residue but put box other, earlier I had 17 rats off, dry up look, took chunk coon fat from scraping an shine up pelt as told by bags to make look shiny an gleam under grader lite, rub fat lightly on all surface, kinda sticky so wipe paper towel , took some out box today, the pelt sound dry when move a little but sticky on fingers can rub coon fat across dry rat hide soak in to much an damage hair ?

Re: Question rat pelts [Re: coonman220] #7138784
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Yes. Just like that.

Re: Question rat pelts [Re: coonman220] #7138823
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Re: Question rat pelts [Re: coonman220] #7138839
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Huh ?

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Re: Question rat pelts [Re: coonman220] #7138903
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Vegetable oil. Winter rats generally donít need it.

Re: Question rat pelts [Re: coonman220] #7138955
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Originally Posted by coonman220
I ask this long ago, took some rats off boards today, use glove fjnger to try shine up pelt with oil residue on pelt, dry out, not enough residue but put box other, earlier I had 17 rats off, dry up look, took chunk coon fat from scraping an shine up pelt as told by bags to make look shiny an gleam under grader lite, rub fat lightly on all surface, kinda sticky so wipe paper towel , took some out box today, the pelt sound dry when move a little but sticky on fingers can rub coon fat across dry rat hide soak in to much an damage hair ?

Skin, flesh, stretch and leave alone till marketing!

Re: Question rat pelts [Re: cat daddy] #7138960
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Re: Question rat pelts [Re: coonman220] #7138983
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Put them in the freezer packed tight, they will quit drying out.

Re: Question rat pelts [Re: coonman220] #7139052
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U think rub piece coon fat across dry pelt would damage rat pelt ? Some are sticky, not do it again , hopefully not as the 17 are the better ones

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Re: Question rat pelts [Re: coonman220] #7139174
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Never heard of rubbing nasty coon fat on muskrats . You are not going to polish a turd into a diamond. Watch some of Groenys videos and learn proper fur put up. That is going to be buying then if you are selling.

Re: Question rat pelts [Re: coonman220] #7139179
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Dave,I doubt you will ruin the fur.
Rubbing pelts with fat or a bit of oil,results in a shiney pelt with no crackling sound when they are handled.Over drying can be part of the cause.
Tom


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Re: Question rat pelts [Re: coonman220] #7139193
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I don't know if should give FHA a try, anything like nafa? Never have, I not want hear about $5 or $6 coon average, like at least try for better,

Re: Question rat pelts [Re: coonman220] #7139198
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Sure, why not give them a try.

Iím pretty sure, either way, you wonít be happy with the results.

What do you have to lose?


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Re: Question rat pelts [Re: coonman220] #7139255
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I guess it depends on when you need the money. Same day you sell or 6 months from now or maybe never.

Re: Question rat pelts [Re: coonman220] #7139410
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The never ending search for a use of coon fat. Don't think you damaged them coonman but definitely not needed. So much coon fat...... probably solve the energy shortage one day burning all that's tossed! Lol

Re: Question rat pelts [Re: coonman220] #7139421
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I would think you would need a straight run of superior 4-5 x coon to do much better than a 6.00 average anywhere in todays market. Hopefully I am wrong.

Re: Question rat pelts [Re: nimzy] #7139470
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Originally Posted by bankrunner
Never heard of rubbing nasty coon fat on muskrats . You are not going to polish a turd into a diamond. Watch some of Groenys videos and learn proper fur put up. That is going to be buying then if you are selling.



A guy I know that has done thousands of fur handling demonstrations at conventions all over the US used to recommend rubbing coon fat on muskrat hides right before you shipped. I've never done it but I don't see any harm in doing it.

Originally Posted by nimzy
Vegetable oil. Winter rats generally donít need it.


Pay attention coonman, this feller knows of what he speaks. Don't lose much sleep over it, you didn't harm the pelts.

Re: Question rat pelts [Re: coonman220] #7139493
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Dave listen to the above trapper 49er and nimzy have wacked a few rats in their time.

One thing to remember is a rat with poor nutrition will have a thin skin and feel like what you are describing, the oil does settle them down a little in that crinkle noise.

Re: Question rat pelts [Re: coonman220] #7139596
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Hate to say it bud, but if they are some of your better rats and they are crinkly, they were over fleshed, and you cant change that. Furbuyer might not mind, groeny will tell you if he thinks you overfleshed, he sells to china by weight.

Re: Question rat pelts [Re: coonman220] #7139628
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Didn't coonman ask the same question last year...? Either he doesn't remember or he likes to get responses from people.

Reminds me of cl or fb people who want to make a deal on something, communicate a few times, and then a person wants to set up a meeting--like I'm coming through your 'burb town today--they go quiet and never hear from them again. Its an on-line mind game for a certain set of people...


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